But… the defenders of multi billion dollar corporations told me that I was a crybaby for not wanting to create an account at a company who has had several outages and security incidents over the years. I can’t believe they were wrong.
The PlayStation Network outage proves PC gamers were right to resist its mandatory sign-in requirement
Submitted 10 months ago by ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net to gaming@beehaw.org
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SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 10 months ago
LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Yeah, some of the Steam reviews on God of War Ragnarok were almost exactly like this.
“Oh, no! You have to use a third-party login to play your game! Get over it, it’s a great game, who cares about you having to go out of your way to arbitrarily create an account for a platform you’ve never used before!” - essentially.
Fucking shit eaters.
cavemeat@beehaw.org 9 months ago
God, I remember the Helldivers 2 fiasco. I can’t believe people really thought having to make yet another login was tolerable or a good thing.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org 10 months ago
Didn’t they lift the PSN account requirement on PC just a few days ago? Imagine if they could not play the game during the outage, if Sony didn’t lift the requirements. I kinda would have loved to see this, because it could mean a huge shift in gaming based on real world proof.
Midnitte@beehaw.org 10 months ago
Well, we already have the proof, because it was broken on PS5.
If Sony had held firm on a PSN sign-in for Helldivers 2, it would have been just as borked on PC as it was on console. Ditto for if Sony had retained its log-in requirement for singleplayer games: You could effectively play God of War Ragnarok offline after creating or logging into a PSN account (unless you opted for a handy mod), but just like installing a PS5 disc drive, a PSN outage would have prevented first-time setup of something that simply does not require an internet connection.
dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com 10 months ago
but just like installing a PS5 disc drive, a PSN outage would have prevented first-time setup of something that simply does not require an internet connection.
I want to address this section by the author. Should any old disc drive work offline? Yes. Do PlayStation’s? No.
In the interest of saving money, Sony doesn’t pre-pay for the Blu-Ray Disc Association License, so they use the internet to know when to pay the license fee on behalf of the user. So from a legal standpoint by an entity which does not want to get sued, their course of action to save money requires this.
SatyrSack@feddit.org 10 months ago
Didn’t they lift the PSN account requirement on PC just a few days ago?
Just on four particular games
apotheotic@beehaw.org 10 months ago
Yeah that’s in the article
sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Now let’s go one step further and quit purchasing games with DRM from a particularly large PC gaming service
pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
I’m all for competition and against forced DRM. But the PC gaming service ʀᴇᴅᴀᴄᴛᴇᴅ that you’re referring to offers genuinely good services on top of just accessing games - social platform, (voice) chat, remote play (together), streaming video to friends, communities, easy access to mods, linux support, makes multiplayer easy, etc…
sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 9 months ago
So are most services and then at some point do some type of rug pull with BS EULA changes, etc. that change the functionality of what you’re using. This is prevailant in everything now a days. I’d say with Steam the writing is on the walls. They have so much power in the PC gaming market (like with the examples you gave) it’s only a matter of time.
I do see how useful and user friendly those services you mentioned are
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I can’t fathom how anyone has an issue with Steam, they’re one of the only straight shooters in the game.
Don_alForno@feddit.org 9 months ago
Until the day after Gabe kicks the bucket.
sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Read their EULA, you license your “purchase”. You don’t own your games. Steam also injects their own DRM onto the vast majority of games.
blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
Yeah, fuck Epic!
sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 9 months ago
I was thinking Steam but Epic, EA, Ubisoft; they’re all riddled with crap
RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
So what do you suggest? Gog is not a contender for me unless they add equivalent regional pricing (in my region), payment options, Linux support (proton), mod workshop, easy multiplayer connectivity, community pages like guides, friend list with messaging and voice chat, etc. Would love to get things on gog but the only thing it has going is DRM free and a ton more negatives. If steam were to rug pull or whatever then I would just go back to the seas.
sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 9 months ago
That’s unfortunate to hear. I doubt anything will compete with Steam with all the things you want. People need to choose to put value where it really matters and have some inconveniences. Pirating certainly won’t get you what you want. Supporting DRM free services (and the games devs) will do more good. You could download your GoG games through the Heroic launcher and it’ll use wine proton (or whatever it’s called). Also Nexus mods has a new mod manager that’ll work on Linux but it’s only in alpha stage currently.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Doing business with Sony in any way is not a good idea.
It’s been downhill since the Walkman.
ech@lemm.ee 10 months ago
They were right for many other reasons. This is just one.