Why do modern phones have device encryption on by default, but computers do not? Why doesn't computers also get encryption on by default?

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• skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Windows does it since 11, macOS has done it for a while now, and Linux has provided the option on most distros for a few years as well.

  If you’ve upgraded Windows to Windows 11 and don’t have encryption enabled, you can enable it after the fact without reinstalling your OS. On Linux this is harder to accomplish.

  Windows 10 locked encryption behind a pro license, but computers haven’t been sold with Windows 10 installations for a few years now.

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  • Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The encryption can be used for bad things too. Windows 11 itself has so many things just straight up bad. Spyware, Telemetry and instability of some “older” apps aka apps from windows 10.

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    • skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t understand. How do you use full-disk encryption for bad things? Are you talking about the pedophile/terrorist angle that governments take on it?

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• s_s@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because Microsoft locked these features to Pro and Enterprise tiers of Windows for profitability reasons.

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  • silvercove@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I use Linux and my hard drive us encrypted.

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• NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Very good question.

  All the business laptops that I had during the last 15 years or so had encryption enabled (these devices were provided to me by employers).

  For my private PC, I simply would not trust Microsoft. Windows itself has become spyware. My private PC isn’t mobile, so the risk is low.

  But if I’d buy a laptop for my private use, I would probably use encryption.

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  • kinsnik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    if you don’t trust microsoft, why would you use windows at all?

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    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Good point. I will have to think about it.

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  • HelixDab2@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For my private PC, I simply would not trust Microsoft.

    Look for something like Win 10 LTSC. It’s entirely stripped down, and usually not readily available to consumers. The updates are only security and stability, no feature.

    Alternately, you can try using Linux, but my experiments with Tails are that it’s a challenge and that there’s no documentation to speak of.

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    • ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Alternately, you can try using Linux, but my experiments with Tails are that it’s a challenge and that there’s no documentation to speak of.

      Well, Tails isn’t exactly a “daily driver” Linux distro so documentation will be lacking compared to the alternatives. Something along the lines of Pop OS, Mint, or Ubuntu would be better for most people.

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• themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They do.

  Windows now enables bitlocker by default when you use a Microsoft account, and it saves the keys to onedrive.

  Mainstream Linux distros don’t do it by default but it’s an option on install, as Linux usually goes.

  MacOS is macOS, I’d be surprised if they didn’t encrypt it before everyone else.

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• dipshit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  encryption not fun when you lose the key.

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• TheInsane42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Newer versions of OS’es have that option, but I guess most computers are pretty stationary, while most phones leave the house very regularly.

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