Digital driving licences to be ‘put on phones this year’

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• danielquinn@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just we need, an excuse for a cop to take your unlocked phone away to his car to do whatever he likes with it.

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  • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It won’t solve the above, but if you’re not aware already, you can “pin” an Android app to lock it to the screen, so nobody can easily switch to another app without using your login pin/code/pattern.

    Firstly, to turn it on, you need to go to Settings>Security & Privacy>Other Security Settings and switch on “Pin App”. The location of this setting may be different depending on the manufacturer of your mobile phone.

    Then, to lock a particular app to the screen, press the three-lines button (maybe a square on your telephone?) to open up the program switcher, then press the circular thumbnail of the icon at the top of the screen, to open up the menu you didn’t know existed, and select “pin this app”.

    Without your password or login pattern, your telephone will only show the currently open app. Nobody can switch to other programs or mess with other stuff without unlocking the phone.

    To unlock it afterwards, you then hold the < and the three lines buttons for a few seconds, then enter your normal login code/pin/pattern to unlock. It will tell you this when you lock it.

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    • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Which works unless the attacker has a Cellebrite/Graykey device for cracking open phones, as the police sometimes do.

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    • danielquinn@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Neat trick! I’ve enabled it on my phone now, though it does say that it’s probably better to use a guest user for such situations… I don’t know how to do that either.

      Still, this is additionally handy when I want to let my kid briefly use my phone.

      This may all be moot though, if the state requires you to install a government app with invasive permissions just for this situation. Yet another reason to give up driving!

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  • Berstrrs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That’s spot on definition of what happening in here

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Reminder that the UK is actually fairly lax in comparison to other countries when it comes to showing your drivers licence to police. Most countries require you to have it with you when you drive, the UK does not.

  If you don’t want to show your license, don’t. Say you left it at home.

  They can request that you come into a police station with it within 7 days, but in reality they probably won’t because they can trivially search for this information anyway.

  Certainly don’t hand over an unlocked phone.

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  • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I got a ticket, in my canoe, for not having my registration paper. The registration number and expiration tag are on the side of the fucking boat. I think the cop was annoyed that I had my license for having a trolling motor on hand, had to nail me somehow.

    Think on that, we have to keep two pieces of paper available on a canoe. Had to print them on waterproof paper.

    I would have known it was required if the water pig had asked for it when she pulled me over last year.

    America’s uptight about “papers please, comrade”.

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    • northernscrub@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      LaNd Of ThE fReE

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  • waz@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I mean, written a little anti-establishment, but you’re completely right, the ‘producer’ slip issued to bring your documents in has been standard stuff for decades and all of the digital info is available to them as soon as they stop you, so it’s literally just proving your face matches the documents to have it with you. If they just had your mug pop up on the screen in their car, who would need to produce anything?

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I don’t even need an ID at my credit union’s drive thru. They look at their camera, they look at their computer, it’s me, done.

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• Rogue@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I might consider using it if it was an open data format, or a download to Google Wallet, Apple Wallet etc but it’s a proprietary app.

  Why the fuck does it need to be an app?

  Why would anyone want to send telemetry directly to the government, it’s insane.

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  • waz@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I don’t see the problem, if you’ve ever used the hmrc tax app, it’s completely fine.

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• Chris108@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I hope they allow non driving ID to be registered on the app for all proof of ID purposes. I have a niece who cannot get a driving license due to epilepsy and if they are going to expect digital ID for a lot of services it would be difficult if she could not use it.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Not a terrible idea, but you’d have to have some security.

  Say it generates a changing QR code that must be scanned by an authorised party within a few seconds, and that party just gets the relevant info they’re allowed to access. e.g. for buying alcohol a photo and age (or even if just over 18 or whatever the item needed) and nothing else because it’s not relevant at all. Nothing stored on the phone except for an ID number.

  There’s no need for it to display anything else.

  Let us lock it with a fingerprint like a banking app.

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• mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  But carrying a piece of paper around has been part of my life for so long. I will write to my MP about this immediately!

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• northernscrub@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Fuck no. Not happening.

  It was already a monumentally stupid idea to bank with your phone. This is catastrophic.

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