Just kill one guy
Submitted 5 months ago by n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca to memes@sopuli.xyz
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wpb@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Franz Ferdinand was not the cause of WWI. WWI was caused by numerous geopolitical, economic, and societal conditions that all drove us towards it. Can I tell you what those conditions were? No, because I’m an uneducated idiot who knows next to nothing about history. But at least I’m not dumb enough to believe that killing one guy led to the killing of 40 million others.
Comment105@lemm.ee 4 months ago
numerous geopolitical, economic, and societal conditions
Oh, we have those!
Doom@ttrpg.network 4 months ago
I mean you could say the same of today though
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Well I mean Serbia is pretty proud of it having a statue of Gabril princip still standing today. The only reason they went ahead with it was because they knew if Russia was dragged in they would have their back. With the beef between HA and the other Western powers that also lead to the UK and such to pick a side.
Luminocta@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It was definitely a factor that, if avoided, could have changed history. He was the final nail in the coffin for many people to get pissed off really bad.
Tyfud@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Franz Ferdinand was an excuse to start ww1, not the cause. The declining monarchies in Germany and other countries were looking for any excuse at that time to flex their remaining muscle in the face of a world which increasingly didn’t need them.
It was the last song of monarchist expansion.
But yes, killing Franz Ferdinand was the catalyst that gave them the excuse they needed. If it hadn’t been that though, it would have been something else shortly after they would have seized on.
Podunk@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Thats just hindsight though. Same as now. Its either a catalyst or it isnt. history will write it. My response will be an acknowledgement of fact or a forgotten record.
RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 months ago
From the research for a school project from a couple years ago, i can say that the assassination was just an excuse to get more control over Serbia
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
So you’re saying the situation was just a simmering pot and that the assassination was but the catalyst for everything that came after?
Balthazar@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
Also known as a powderkeg ;D
rumba@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
situation was just a simmering pot
The situation was a simmering pot, but the ingredients were vastly different. The ingredients were an ongoing arms race, nationalism, imperialism, and the militarism of Imperial Germany.
That said, we do have some Nazi’s in the grocery order…
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Give who an excuse, AH? I mean, Serbia has a pretty rocky history with the seige of Sarajevo and all.
babybus@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
From what I read in some history books, the assassination of Franz Ferdinand was just one of many pieces that led to WWI.
CiderApplenTea@lemmy.world 4 months ago
As if there are no other pieces at the present time
babybus@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Yeah, but that meme implies causation, and I can’t agree with that.
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
I was taught that the consensus amongst historians is that it would have happened regardless
bob_lemon@feddit.org 4 months ago
The assassination was the trigger, not the reason.
It would have been easy to prevent the war even afterwards, but Austria-Hungary sent ridiculous demands to Serbia, knowing full well they could not comply, which immediately pulled in Germany and Russia via their respective defensive pacts.
yarr@feddit.nl 4 months ago
One was head of state, the other is some CEO that was replaced by another one in the lineup before the day was even over.
Mandy@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 months ago
More specifically, the sandwich that he stopped to grab, in public, after having just survived MULTIPLE failed assasination attempts in a parade!
Honestly, let’s take away the politics. Let’s take away the original reasons for the assasination attempts. Let’s take away the nationality, and culture.
The fact that you sat in an open top car during a parade, witnessed MULTIPLE assasination attempts fail as you drove through the public, SURVIVED UNHARMED, and your first thought was “I’m gonna get a sandwich”? Yeah, Franz deserved what he got.
ScrollerBall@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It was the assassin that suposedly was getting the sandwich, but it’s a made up story.
smithsonianmag.com/…/gavrilo-princips-sandwich-79…
TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I’d be hungry after all of that, too.
DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 months ago
Would you perhaps say that he was hungarian after that parade?