Would you work for a corporation that you oppose ideologically, if the pay is good?

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• JustZ@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No. Don’t need them.

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• elscallr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah, probably.

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• Nemo@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nope! Already turned that real down decades ago.

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• DigitalWebSlinger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I was part of a group of people who got laid off from a small startup a few months ago. Many of us formed a discord group and have been supporting each other through the job hunt.

  One guy who’s been at his job for about a week recently said this:

  Many people have told me you shouldn’t take a job doing something that you love… That’s the main lesson I learned from getting laid off

  You end up pouring all your energy into it. I wanna do something that I hate, and I’ll use that hate and anger to fuel something else 😈

  It feels kinda good to look evil right in the face and put on a fake smile and say “yes I will take money from you to do bullshit work”

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• luciferofastora@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I sorta do? My employer has been making commitments to improving things, and I’m involved in one of those projects, but they’re a very slow ship to turn and I can’t say I 100% stand behind what they’re generally doing.

  I joined out of a mix of necessity, opportunism and the chance to develop new skills, and grew to like the specific job I’m doing. I didn’t have many choices for private reasons, but needed the money when I signed up, so in a way the money was good enough to compromise on ethics.

  I got a permanent position now, and again, I stuck for personal reasons, to improve my future prospects and because I like the job, but for all the security a permanent position offers, I’m still planning to start looking for different opportunities when circumstances allow, unless the internal culture makes some masive progress in the next two years.

  In the medium run? Not sure. I’d like to think I’d compromise money over ideology, but I also know that I tend to be selfish and really good at mental gymnastics to justify decisions. I would probably not sign on with Exxon, so there’s definitely the severity of opposition to account for, but there isn’t any clear line that I’d swear my life on. On the other hand, if the money was enough to support political causes that I feel (or tell myself) would weigh up the toll on my conscience, I might fold.

  In the long run, I hope to get to a point where I can answer that with a firm “No”. Maybe once life stabilises, I’ll grow firmer in my convictions. Maybe once the question of pay shifts from covering necessities to the amount of luxury I can afford, the exact number will lose meaning. Maybe I’ll find a place that I both support fully and earn enough at that any more would feel obscene anyway.

  So basically, it comes down to the factors of

  1. How strongly do I oppose the company?
  2. How much money, compared to what I need to live, and compared to what I need to support a pleasant lifestyle?
  3. Where am I on the scale from nihilism to idealism at the given point in time?

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• HeroHiro@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yes 100%. I get why everyone would say no, but as someone currently living in poverty without enough money to eat every day, if I could make enough money to live comfortably and the job didn’t kill my body I’d work for anyone as long as the job was legal. I’d probably just shit talk the company in my off time or something, it wouldn’t matter because I’d be able to afford to have off time.

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• Electric_Druid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Any chance the friend’s job was Vector Marketing or “Cutco” knives?

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  • Coreidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ya fuck cutco knives. When I was a lot younger I applied to their ad. The idea of selling knives wasn’t a big deal to me. But then they wanted me to write down a list of every person I knew, and then go sell to them.

    I said fuck that immediately and bailed. No way I’m intruding on my friends and family to make some other cunt money.

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    • Electric_Druid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I worked for them for a couple of months in college before I knew better, very shady shit.

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• InternetUser2012@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Depends on how good the good pay is.

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• samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Everyone has their price. It’s just a question of how much.

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• 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  All Googlers say yes.

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• archomrade@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just finished rewatching Sorry to Bother You, and it deals with this dynamic wonderfully. Highly recommend anyone who works for a living watch it

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• bighatchester@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  In my current situation I definitely would . I’ve been struggling for a while to get any job that can pay be better than what I currently get paid .

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• HollowNotion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It depends, but… mostly yes. I don’t agree with most big companies ideologically speaking… I’d have a hard time finding work if I limited myself in that way.

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• SlimeKnight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Short answer, yes.

  Long answer, it’s easy to say you will die for a cause while in a cushy position. Sometimes you will have to do things you don’t agree with to provide for your loved ones. My current job allows me to provide without compromising my morals, but it would be dishonest of me to say I wouldn’t if it didn’t. As such, I don’t blame the people who have.

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• Sneptaur@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It really depends on the job. I’d probably work for any tech company if the price was right, but I wouldn’t work for a right-wing publication or think tank ever.

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• Gerula@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They cannot be corrupt and amoral in the same time. Please choose :)

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• UnicornKitty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nope. To be fair I wouldn’t look at the sticker price if it was a company of ill repute. I would have to be offered the CEO of that company so I can fix it. Only way.

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• tiny@midwest.social [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I try to avoid to it but no job will be perfect. You could life style creep and that nice salary turns into handcuffs and you might have issues going back to making less at a more ethical company

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• spiderman@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Depends on how well the pay is and whether there is a healthy stage for me to voice out my opinion on the things and whether they would respect that.

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• AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  For the right money, I’d do most any job regardless of who it’s with.

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• msbeta1421@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yes. We will never be able to change the things we want to change unless we first understand them. Also, money.

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• jesterraiin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No, unless:

  • I would be tricked into it without the possibility to exit it immediately
  • I didn’t realize it’s not what it claimed to be
  • There would be no other way to put food onto a platter (I am ready to perform as an exotic dancer in LGBTQ+ clubs, if need be)
  • The corpo in talking would be large, transnational and the problem would concern only some distant part of it, one I wouldn’t have any contact with.

  But, of course, these scenarios are “once in a lifetime” kind of mental exercise. Nothing more. The answer is “no”.

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