How do you scream?

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Like I get the push more air through your mouth and get louder but my voice never breaks. I just get louder and louder and louder until I can't get louder anymore.

One time a friend of mine was a half a block away in the wrong direction and I screamed their name and they jumped because they said it sounded like I was right behind them talking in my normal voice just very loudly.

But then I listen to singers and they get that raw raspy edge to their voice and my voice doesn't do that.

How do you do that?

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foggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I am a decent metal vocalist. I have taught all kinds of people to do deep guttural growls, from children to adults male and female.

Without creating a wall of text that will only confuse you… Two words: Exasperated sigh.

Sigh like you just died on the final boss and realized you never quicksaved.

Sigh like your dad just made the most anguishingly bad pun you’ve ever heard. There needs to be some disgust in this sigh.

Kind of say “uhhh” and “eww” and “ugh” at the same time.

The goal is to push air hard and leave the throat muscles loose. This will make your throat flap about and distort the sound coming out.

Okay we’re getting toward wall of text, but, have you ever had a cough for a long time? And your cough got nasty sounding, even after you were all better? You trained your muscles to relax, thats why it sounds different, and you did it to help push mucous out. Screaming is pretty much the same. Once you’re comfortable with all this, give it a nice loud: “Ahhhhhhhhhh!” But relax your throat as you push more air/push harder. That’s where the distortion comes from.

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- Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Fun tip! And now I’m sure there are people nearby wondering why I’m making these strange noises.
  
  I’ve always wondered how you guys can go more than one song without hurting yourselves.
  
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- southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Dude, that’s awesome :) I love the entire explanation.
  
  It’s the same basic way I learned to growl too.
  
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- TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  any tips for not injuring vocal chords?
  
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  - foggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    If it hurts, stop. Don’t practice in pain.
    
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arandomthought@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
If you’re talking about the metal music kind of screaming look up “vocal fry” or “fry screaming” on YouTube. It’s a technique, and it’s surprisingly not that loud. Like you wouldn’t use a fry scream to shout at your friend a block away but on a recording or through the mic on stage you can’t tell so it looks and sounds like the singer is screaming their lungs out.

Also if you try it yourself make sure to stop before it hurts! If done correctly you can fry scream all day. If done incorrectly and ignoring the warnings signs you could end up needing surgery on your larynx. Have fun!

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southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
The kind of scream you might do in fear or anger doesn’t work exactly the same as when it’s done in a controlled way.

The answers already present cover how to scream as a vocal technique way better than I could (I can only growl, I’ve never managed to get a proper metal scream). But the kind of scream that you make involuntarily tends to be made by the vocal cords being stretched tight. You can’t scream like that in a sustained way without it hurting. Too much air pressure being pushed through very taut cords, it just isn’t healthy. It’s also more of a head/throat generated sound and will be higher pitched.

If you want some awesome insight into the various vocal techniques used in metal, there’s a YouTube channel called “the charismatic voice”. The lady that does the channel is an opera singer that has turned into a metal fan, and is now doing research with a university. They recently did some amazing work with the vocalist Will Ramos, from lorna shore. MRIs, electric readings, cameras, etc. They’re building a body of research into “harsh” vocals.

But the channel as a whole, she’s watching/listening to videos of music, with it leaning heavily into metal. She talks about the mechanics of how the vocalists do it, and she goes in depth.

With that said, what you were doing, trying to yell for your friend to get their attention, that’s more protecting your voice. When you pull the air in deep, and push from the stomach up, using your body to support that push, you can be very loud with zero distortion. Volume of the voice is all about moving air efficiently. Ever see a movie or show with a drill sergeant barking orders across a big group of soldiers? That’s projection. It’s the same basic techniques that opera singers and stage actors use. It’s all about the air and the way you use the diaphragm with your entire body.

Anyway, some links

The channel I mentioned

The footage with the research

Some loud vocalizations that aren’t distorted but are musical

A quickie tutorial on the basic technique of growling

And one for the fry scream

That growl technique is essentially the same as the way I learned to growl (though I’m not very good at it), and it matches one another user described in text.

But, no bullshit, if you’re projecting your voice that clearly a block away, that’s fucking legit power. I can’t sing for shit, just can’t hold notes steady enough to be enjoyed by other people. But I tried. Getting to the point of being able to project my speaking voice clearly over a distance took months of work. So, if you can do that, you can absolutely learn to metal scream/growl, and likely be good at it.

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- Classy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I just want to know what the dude from Lamb of God does to make himself sound like a jaguar
  
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  - southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    I’m fairly certain he has summoned a cat demon from the fifth plane of the infernal realm.
    
    Either that or he’s some kind of magnificent hybrid of man and beast.
    
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Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Personally, I scream for icecream.

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- TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  BING QI LIN!!!
  
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I try not to.

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- lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Q: How to scream
  A: Toxic, competitive gaming
  
  Actually, that checks out perfectly.
  
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- tourist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  During the single mandatory postgraduate session on ethics, a few of us decided to play a bot trivia game over Telegram.
  
  We all already knew it’s bad to use our education to kill people or do fraud or plagiarise shit. Like, man, I never did that. I’m not gonna fucking do that.
  
  Anyways, someone sent the answer, “Led Zeppelin”, 1ms before me.
  
  I slammed my fist on the desk. The entire lecture hall looked at me. That was my only moment of gamer rage where I hit something. Normally I just aggressively grunt or clench my teeth.
  
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Mango@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Honestly OP, it sounds like what you’re doing is dramatically more interesting. Can we get an example?

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walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Get OP some singing lessons stat!

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someoneelse@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
You have to stop projecting the sound from the diaphragm and move it to the throat. Essentially the opposite from singing instructions. It is obviously really bad for the vocal cords.

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- arandomthought@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Not if done correctly. Metal singers do it all day long. It’s all about technique and heeding the warning signs when you’re not doing it right.
  
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  - someoneelse@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Sure, but that’s not what they are asking. A scream, a shout and a metal growl are different things, they asked about screaming.
    
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