Of course they do. They want to keep control over monetization. They don’t care about creators at all.
YouTube is dedicated to making itself worse; destroys SponsorBlock with ad injection changes
Submitted 10 months ago by Powderhorn@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weP62wPEjRw
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Feyter@programming.dev 10 months ago
smeg@feddit.uk 10 months ago
TL;DW: the ads will be in the video stream itself which will mess up timestamps, sponsor block uses timestamps to know when the ads are.
Seems to me that this will also break every other use case of specific times like direct linking to a timestamp of a video, right?
Alice@beehaw.org 10 months ago
This sucks for so many. People use timestamps for content warnings or to help viewers avoid spoilers. Commenters use timestamps when talking about the content of the video. It’s insane to change this once it’s so ingrained in how people use the website.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
It’s also how content creators literally create chapters: put the time codes into the video description
That’s a native feature of the platform
smeg@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Hopefully they’ll realise it’s a bigger breaking change than they wanted as part of this testing phase
mjhelto@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I’d imagine YouTube subtracts the ad length from posted timestamps when clicking a link containing one. But we are taking about Google, soooooo…
smeg@feddit.uk 10 months ago
If Google can do that then hopefully sponsor block can too!
prole@beehaw.org 10 months ago
It will end up being like FreeVee on Prime for anyone who’s ever watched a movie or anything on there. They straight up randomly just inject ads in at random times, often not even during scene breaks. Characters are sometimes mid-sentence… Oh, and we’re back to the volume of the ads being 2x louder than the movie itself because I guess that law Congress passed way back in the day only applied to cable and broadcast TV.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 10 months ago
All his stuff is on youtube. Why doesn’t he upload to peertube? :/ It seems like he doesn’t like youtube a lot but his content only exists there.
DdCno1@beehaw.org 10 months ago
Because that’s where the audience is. You are essentially making the silly “but yet you choose to live in society” argument.
anachronist@midwest.social 10 months ago
I mean we’re sitting here on the lemmyverse having a conversation…
But yeah creators should upload to peertube but they won’t get any meaningful viewership there. The only way to break the network affect stranglehold google/youtube has over video content on the internet is making sure that if you do produce that content it’s available via other channels.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 10 months ago
You are essentially making the silly “but yet you choose to live in society” argument.
I don’t think so. OP wasn’t saying to stop uploading to YouTube, but to upload to alternate sites as well and maybe lead their audiences there by mentioning it in videos.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 10 months ago
🙄 yeah, great talking with you
brie@beehaw.org 10 months ago
Not PeerTube, but he is on Odysee/LBRY.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 10 months ago
Oh damn, I thought Odysee was dead and didn’t give it a second thought. How is Odysee still alive?
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Why do you add that link to the end of every comment?
threeduck@aussie.zone 10 months ago
Maybe it’s like those Facebook posts where you tell Mark Zuckerberg that he’s not allowed to profit off your photos.
tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 10 months ago
Same reason my mum posts a facebook status telling facebook not to user her data.
She’s an idiot.
Mechanize@feddit.it 10 months ago
I find it funny that this is the first video where I’m consistently getting the “This helps us protect our community” and “Log in to confirm that you are not a bot” errors while using an alternative Frontend.
I’m sure it’s just a random coincidence, but it is still funny to me.
JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 10 months ago
And yet, despite everyone complaining, they know damn well no one is going to stop using it so they’ll continue to do whatever that want.
Maybe people should just…. Stop using YouTube. That or don’t complain when they fuck over the content creators and users of their platform.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I’m honestly not gonna use youtube without ad and sponsor block.
JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 10 months ago
You could just not use YouTube at all.
Sina@beehaw.org 10 months ago
I’ll just use invidious, it’s a bit of a chore to use, but it’s increasingly worth it.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 months ago
↑ painting :)
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
people really overestimate how many people use ad blockers and sponsorblock…
filcuk@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
30% desktop, 15% mobile estimated in the US use ad blockers.
That is not insignificant by any means, even if it’s overestimated.JackbyDev@programming.dev 10 months ago
I imagine the amount of people using sponsorblock specifically are much smaller.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 10 months ago
So few… I’m going to just start offering to install ad blockers in everyone’s phone
jaschen@lemm.ee 10 months ago
My brother in law says he likes commercials when I offered to remove it. They are over indexing this.
vahtos@programming.dev 10 months ago
[deleted]Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
That’s exactly what I did with my YouTube account
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tuckerm@supermeter.social 10 months ago
This may not work out the way I want it to, but I'm actually a little excited about these tech companies making a bunch of anti-consumer decisions all at once. So many mainstream users will be looking for alternatives, and it's going to provide a great opportunity for non-profit open source projects. It's already happening with the fediverse suddenly becoming a viable place for discussion in the last 1.5 years. After Windows Recall was announced, I've seen more people talking about switching to Linux than ever before. Part of me can't wait for unskippable Youtube ads.
t3rmit3@beehaw.org 10 months ago
People often decry accelerationism, but the reality is that the slow-boiled frog is the one that sits and dies. Chipping away at freedoms, consumer protections, product benefits, etc is all less likely to spark backlash than when they drop sharply in a short time.
That doesn’t mean you should help to make things worse, but it does mean that you may want to reconsider constantly mitigating every bad thing that others are doing, rather than letting them shoot themselves in the foot. When people are being hurt, help them. When people are being inconvenienced, let them get angry.
noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 10 months ago
This looks like a very classical and well-known case of executives copying each other.
That other company is doing layoffs and seems fine? Reports the line going up? Let’s do it, too!
The guys across the street are already implementing AI? Investors love it? Let do it, too! We may have taken a risk with blockchain, but this one is just sure to work better for us!
The big name is going for the money, predator-style, and they’re still afloat? Finally, we can cash out, too!
DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 10 months ago
We need Cory to coin a term for what comes after enhittification. Perhaps we can call it the Great Wipening, where we all stop paying to be treated like serfs and start taking back control of our content and data.
renard_roux@beehaw.org 10 months ago
You missed an S in end vitrification.
And I completely agree, Cory seems to be good at coining terms and making them stick 👍
prole@beehaw.org 10 months ago
No we don’t, we have 400+ years of capitalist history to tell us what comes next; Oligarchy, neo-feudalism…
People: Cory Doctorow didn’t invent this concept. Read a book.
null@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
I’ve been the Linux zealot in my friend group for years, and none of them have switched (they’ve dabbled on old laptops but never daily drove).
With Recall, a coworker I never would have expected reached out to me because he knows I’m a “Linux guy” and he was switching to Linux over it.
He’s still daily driving pop_OS a month later.
Powderhorn@beehaw.org 10 months ago
This is an underrepresented viewpoint. We are at the point of “find out,” which so many tech companies thought they could stay just to the other side of the line on. Thing is, you can only move the goalposts so often before they’re in someone’s yard, and they didn’t sign up for this shit.
It was OneDrive upgrade nagging that made me switch to Linux. Microsoft could have, you know, not done that and kept a user. They also could have not gone regressive with how the taskbar functions. Or any number of other things that were dismissive of users.
At a certain point, you’re sitting in ever warmer water in the pot, and it occurs that maybe you’re being turned into food. That’s when the Linux pots start looking appealing. This was a completely avoidable problem brought to you by greed.
Greed! Because we don’t think making a good product is what capitalism is about.
toaster@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
I can’t wait until more YouTube creators move to Peertube + donation platforms like Liberapay!