EUROBEE

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• usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not only that but honey bees also threaten native bees

  But scientists say competition with honey bees may also play a role. In a 2017 report in Conservation Letters, researchers calculated that during three months, honey bees in a typical 40-hive apiary collect the equivalent amount of pollen and nectar as 4 million solitary wild bees. “Brilliant foragers,” honey bees can “dominate floral resources and suppress native bee numbers,” says lead author Jim Cane, a retired federal biologist who heads the nonprofit WildBeecology.

  Honey bees also carry diseases that can infect natives, including deformed wing virus and the parasite Crithidia bombi. Researchers have found that native bees near apiaries can suffer a high incidence of such illnesses.

  Fun fact, most North American native bee species don’t even live in hives or produce honey for themselves at all. They also almost never sting too

  Unlike honey bees, more than 90 percent of our nearly 4,000 native bee species live not with other bees in hives but alone in nests carved into soil, wood or hollow plant stems. Often mistaken for flies, the majority are tiny and do not have queens or produce honey. Without a hive’s larvae and food supplies to defend, “native bees almost never sting,” Mizejewski say

  www.nwf.org/Home/Magazines/…/Honey-Bees

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  • DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So just like European settlers they took all the resources and gave the natives bee smallpox.

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    • Random_German_Name@feddit.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just like me fr fr

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  • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve seen some of these tiny bees pollinating my tomato plants!

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• InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have a few ground-nesting bees buddies in the yard.
  They’re chill and I see them pollinating my garden now and then.
  They’re now part of the family and I’ll knock some sense in any guest who tries to harm them.

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• GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I was planning to keep bees, until someone informed me that honey bees outcompete native bumbles.

  And I fucking love bumbles.

  So now I’m modifying the garden to be bumble friendly, and living without enormous amounts of honey.

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• Napain@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  i wonder what other invasive from europe endangers natives

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  • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cannot tell if a serious statement or sarcastic. But sure, there are many invasive species from Europe all over the world. Just as there are many invasive species from all over the world in Europe. And they threaten native species all over the globe. Habitat loss and climate change are probably much bigger concerns to endangered species though… What’s so insidious about honeybees is what’s mentioned in the meme as well, that they are easily economically exploitable so that companies like to focus their environmental programs on them instead of actually endangered species. Also, people tend to like relatable animals much more so most public campaigns to save endangered species are related to cute or anthropomorphized animals.

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    • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s a joke, they’re talking about white people.

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  • Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It probably doesn’t happen too often… Right?

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  • veganpizza69@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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• deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That seems a bit like complaining that cattle are replacing native deer.

  They may occupy the same niche, but one feeds people and the other does not.

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  • fireweed@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah but people don’t make a big deal about “save the deer!” and then start a cattle ranch

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    • SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      When people talk about saving the bees they usually mean the ones responsible for feeding us.

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  • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, I think the insidious problem about honeybees is that people often say “save the bees” and mean only honeybees. But it is a domesticated species that doesn’t need any saving. Meanwhile endangered species get forgotten altogether.

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• 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Idk, last I checked the European Honey Bee was native, but I guess you could prefer bumblebees?

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  • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’re “invasive” if you’re not on Eurasia.

    Humans took them everywhere else.

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    • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’re native to Africa, Europe, West Asia & Central Asia, which covers around 3 billion people

      East & South Asia have the Asiatic Honey Bee which is closely related enough that their introduction wouldn’t disrupt the ecosystem as they fill the same niche in the same way

      That leaves only around 15% of the global population somewhere European Honey Bees even have potential to become invasive, so it’s a safe bet that they aren’t for most people

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    • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That brings up an interesting point, they’ve been here 400 years, at one point does something stop being classified as invasive?

      If we say never, then the term invasive kind of loses all meaning, but I wonder where the logical cutoff might be.

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    • Aux@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Humans don’t live outside of Europe.

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  • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    From Wikipedia:

    “The western honey bee can be found on every continent except Antarctica. The species is believed to have originated in Africa or Asia, and it spread naturally through Africa, the Middle East and Europe. Humans are responsible for its considerable additional range, introducing European subspecies into North America (early 1600s), South America, Australia, New Zealand, and eastern Asia.” So, depends where you live. Especially South and Central American honey bee populations have been overtaken by the africanized honey bee though, which is a feral human-bred hybrid that escaped the lab in Brazil.

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• Ephera@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • Scrawny@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bees collect nectar for nutrition and they collect pollen as their protein source. These activities pollinate as a by-product. Honey bees collect a lot of nectar to refine into honey to survive the winter months. This makes the honey bee ideal for some flowering plants which have a lot of nectar that the honey bee needs. Many native species have short lifecycles. Some only during a bloom of a particular flower. This is why native bees make better pollinators as a whole. Honey bees pass up many flowers that have little benefit to them as a nectar source. Native bees collect the pollen that would be undisturbed by the honey bee.

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    • ExFed@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Invasive honey bees are less effective pollinators for most native species. However, they indeed consume a lot of nectar, leaving little for the more effective native species to survive.

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Ecosystem Services” as an industry term makes me see red.

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• uienia@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Peak US defaultism going on in here.

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• lseif@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  op is anti honey bee …

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  • Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    good

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  • veganpizza69@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    OP is correct

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• Welt@lazysoci.al ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Varroa mite has entered the chat

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• fireweed@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is one reason why I love my native lupine plants. They occasionally get honeybee visitors, but I’ve noticed honeybees struggle with getting the flowers open to access the nectar. Bumblebee lands and his big fat body causes the flower to open right up. Gee it’s almost like they co-evolved!

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