Submitted 6 months ago by UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk to movies@lemm.ee
The latest installment in George Miller’s celebrated action franchise debuted Wednesday night.
I think the Cannes crowd are a strange bunch anyway. They gave Dial of Destiny a 5-minute standing ovation, so make of that what you will. (PS I though DoD was great but a standing ovation!?)
I think it’s normal for all films to get a standing ovation there, so this is not really news.
Oh I see, so you have to do it for longer to show that you really mean it
Greeted with? So before anyone saw the movie? Seems a bit silly.
I just hope the CGI in the final cut has improved from the trailer. That shit was baaaaad
Being picky about bad CGI has run its course now and is likely a toxic urge in film culture ATM.
I’m a bit of a broken record on this already (see prior posts here, here and here, all driven by the “No CGI is really just invisible CGI” series on YT.
Is this actually helping us enjoy cinema or priming us to be sensitive to something that prevents us from enjoying something we easily could? All I’m going to say here is that some lessened sensitivity over the “quality” of CGI is likely warranted right now.
And I know, we all prefer good CGI over bad so why not enjoy what we enjoy.
Well because the industry is gaslighting us over how much CGI is actually everywhere and fundamental to modern cinema, likely in part because they enjoy pushing down the CGI industry, but also because they want to control what we think of as “spectacle” so that they control and retain effective marketing.
Out of that YT series, there were two really novel things for me. One, was that the studio’s have always underplayed their reliance on effects and lied and not given VFX artists due credit almost since the beginning. Two, was that part of what’s going on right now with CGI and the excitement over “practical effects” is that the glorious epic spectacular shots that got viewers excited in the past have lost their appeal or efficacy due to over saturation over time.
But spectacle puts people in seats and makes money. So the studios want to be able to tell us and control what is “good spectacle”.
Sounds conspiracy theorist, I know. But I’m not talking about thought control here, just marketing.
Think about how much you or I actually know about VFX and CGI?
Do we really know what is “good” or “bad” CGI? Sure somethings will stand out to us as “bad”, but I’ve seen instances now of people mistaking “practical” for “bad CGI” for the simple reason that they don’t actually know what the practical thing really looks like (the Rings of Power trailer with liquid metal is I suspect a good example … people thought it was cheap CGI, but it was apparently practical … the point being that basically no internet nerd actually knows anything about what liquid metal looks like).
Add to this how things and tastes have shifted pretty quickly as CGI has gotten way better pretty quickly, and you get a weird scenario where viewers can want the latest/best CGI to the point of being hyper-critical of “bad” CGI that would have been well received 10-20 years ago … while also demanding practical effects that “look real” when there’s a good chance that they’re either being lied to about what is real and isn’t and also don’t really know.
But the studios want us hyped. So they’ll keep lying or trying to feed us what they think we want right now. And then viewers’ tastes will be molded by this experience. We’ll think we know what the latest/best CGI is and what “good and real” practical effects look like … which will push the next stage of attempts to hype us with lies and catering to our particular and likely somewhat arbitrary needs.
It’s what got us to hyper-CGI driven film making in the 00s-10s and has got us studios lying now about practical effects that actually involve a lot of CGI (Top Gun seems really egregious on this front).
And in all of this lack of transparency is a whole industry going unrecognised and being over-worked and underpaid by studios more likely to pretend they don’t exist than actually pay them for the work they do.
So … maybe try to enjoy the story, characters and the writing?
Maybe don’t be so obsessive about good/bad VFX? Maybe we no longer know what we’re talking about when it comes to convincing VFX, or at least spoilt to the point of being artistically meaningless in our amateur critiques?
Maybe just break the hype feedback cycle
/rant
Bad CGI takes my immersion away from the actors and story and breaks my ability to enjoy the not-CGI shit, so that essay you wrote is wrong.
If DV’s Dune and Dune 2 both had a fucking 90’s Beetlejuice sand worm, the film would not have been as good even with such great acting by the actors in that room.
Yeah, there are quite a few shots that stand out for looking a bit iffy.
qooqie@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Standing ovations for films is some weird cult shit tbh
9point6@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean if it was gonna happen anywhere, a film festival probably makes the most sense
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Maybe some of those who made the film were there? That’s the only reason I can think of but 7 minutes is just dumb.
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why
qooqie@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So <1min standing ovation I can get, just appreciating the time and effort. But when it gets to be 5+ min it gives me big celebrity cult worship vibes and to me that’s a negative to others maybe a positive I suppose