If TikTok in the US is spun off as a separate entity, how hard would it be for the current company to put in a back door to still access the data.

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• downpunxx@fedia.io ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It's not the data the CCP wants, it's the influence in what is served to American eyeballs by their algorithm. Data you can buy anywhere.

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  • Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Data is expensive, and tiktok collects a lot

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    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nothing is too expensive for a government my friend.

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• radix@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No need. Most apps already collect a ton of data, and is sold to anyone who asks nicely. Which company owns a service won’t change that one bit.

  The whole thing is election-year performative bullshit, while your data isn’t one iota safer.

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  • SkyNTP@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You correctly answered OP’s question. But the question was irrelevant to begin with. The ban on TikTok has nothing to do with data collection. It’s about controlling potential sources of foreign interference: controlling what is said or how platforms (pick and choose what to) broadcast what people are saying.

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  • lowqualityworld@lemmy.cafe ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ehhhhh idk about that, reverse engineering efforts have found that it collects a lot more than other apps. Lots of seemingly unnecessary stuff.

    Also, there’s the whole thing with it burrowing in your internal files whether you delete it or not so it can continue collecting data after you uninstall, among with other suspicious (and strangely sophisticated) behaviors.

    Also, it’s bipartisan so I don’t see where the “performative bullshit” is, it’s genuinely a really well written virus that everyone willingly has installed on their phones, controlled by a country who’s actively an openly a surveillance state. Not to mention the mental health implications; they don’t even let their own citizens use it for more than an hour a day.

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• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They’d just buy the data like they do every other social media company.

  This is performative bullshit. If they really really cared, they’d ban companies from collecting it in the first place.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Exactly.

    No need for conspiracy or back doors. The only downside is ByteDance having to pay for data that they got as part of running the platform. Heck, they can probably even find a way to run control through shell corps or other means like being a big shareholder of some intermediate investment and nothing will change.

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  • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is more about pro-palenstinan content on TikTok than data.

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This issue far predates the current outbreak of war in Gaza. It’s also about the CCP being able to directly feed propaganda to Americans.

      (Only American companies are allowed.)

      The national security argument is actually valid, but banning TikTok doesn’t resolve the core problem: that the data exists and is being sold everyday to basically anyone that can afford it, including the CCP, Russia, North Korea, Iran, ISIS, other people like ISIs, Domestic terrorists that pretend they’re not like ISOS, and dozens of organized crime groups.

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  • polarpear11@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Their old asses don’t know that and no amount of explaining will help them understand.

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• Thann@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Super easy, barely an inconvience

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  • downpunxx@fedia.io ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    iutr

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• INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m not sure but I think the issue is not so much what data is available and more how the data is served to users via the algorithm.

  Imagine if it’s served in a way that intentionally makes users want to vote against their own interests.

  That said, I have no idea what I’m talking about.

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• Toes@ani.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Trivial, it might actually be harder not too.

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• lowqualityworld@lemmy.cafe ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s unlikely because of how scrutinized the code will be once it’s sold, but not impossible. It’ll be caught eventually if it is backdoored, though.

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• Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not hard at all.

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• nucleative@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Terms of Sale:

  Buyer agrees to sell user data to TT DataVacuum, LLC

  Buyer agrees to install For You page algorithm updates per the requirements of TT DataVacuum, LLC on a quarterly basis.

  Btw our lawyers are still setting up our new LLC with nominee directors. Dont worry, totally American.

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• aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Data access is just one issue. Executing CCP propaganda policy (shadowbanning topics critical of the CCP and amplifying topics that divide/destabilize western democracies) is at least as worrisome.

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• BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  A code audit?

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