There are still limits, even in at will and right to work states there are some protections.
Revoking approved time off after it’s already started is definitely a valid reason for a wrongful termination lawsuit. Especially if you have evidence of previous bullshit.
That’s why you should always get everything that seems even remotely bullshit in writing, and have your own backups.
Not telling someone why you are firing them isn’t a magical lawsuit avoidance option. In a wrongful termination lawsuit, the courts take context into account specifically because of shitty companies/managers trying to hide behind exactly that.
They cannot legally fire you for any reason, though yes, they can fire you for no reason. The distinction often doesn’t matter, but sometimes they’re stupid enough to put the illegal reason in writing
They did have to pay unemployment, but they tried really hard to discourage me from seeking it, saying I likely wasn’t even eligible for it and not to even bother filing.
Wow, that’s shitty of them… Like, what do you even lose for trying? They knew they were going to have to pay up if you applied, those bastards were trying to gaslight you.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You can be fired for almost anything.
They just may have to pay unemployment.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 months ago
There are still limits, even in at will and right to work states there are some protections.
Revoking approved time off after it’s already started is definitely a valid reason for a wrongful termination lawsuit. Especially if you have evidence of previous bullshit.
That’s why you should always get everything that seems even remotely bullshit in writing, and have your own backups.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Any time someone is terminated without cause, the employer simply doesn’t provide a reason for termination. They’re not required to.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not telling someone why you are firing them isn’t a magical lawsuit avoidance option. In a wrongful termination lawsuit, the courts take context into account specifically because of shitty companies/managers trying to hide behind exactly that.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Just because they don’t give the reason doesn’t mean the reason can’t be proven.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You can’t be fired for unlawful reasons. Being fired for taking an agreed upon vacation is illegal retaliation.
MutilationWave@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They just lie about it. You get your unemployment granted. Especially in the shittiest jobs this is how it goes.
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Sounds like you haven’t been in the American work force.
They can fire you for any reason. Or no reason. Nothing matters because if you’re a wage slave nobody cares.
Plus they probably made you sign a waiver to work there saying that you couldn’t ever sue them for any reason.
Revan343@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
They cannot legally fire you for any reason, though yes, they can fire you for no reason. The distinction often doesn’t matter, but sometimes they’re stupid enough to put the illegal reason in writing
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
They can write whatever they want on the waiver, but it won’t hold up against provably illegal retaliation.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 months ago
They did have to pay unemployment, but they tried really hard to discourage me from seeking it, saying I likely wasn’t even eligible for it and not to even bother filing.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Lovely. This one weird trick saves thousands and only costs people who don’t matter.
laurelraven@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Wow, that’s shitty of them… Like, what do you even lose for trying? They knew they were going to have to pay up if you applied, those bastards were trying to gaslight you.
I hate corpos so damned much
HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Yeah, but it can be in direct retalliation, it must be based on work performance. Normally the former is hard to prove, but sometimes it’s obvious.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s simply not accurate in 49 out of 50 states.
Basically, you can be fired for any reason aside from membership in a protected class.
But if you are terminated without cause, you can collect unemployment, which the further employer is required to pay.