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Arghblarg@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s less evil than XML or YAML

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  • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    XML is ok for complex docs where you have a detailed structure and relationships. JSON is good for simple objects. YAML is good for being something to switch to for the illusion of progress.

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    • Earflap@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Meh. I just wish XML was easier to parse. I have to shuttle a lot of XML data back and forth. As far as I can tell, the only way to query the data is to download a whole engine to run a special query language, and that doesn’t really integrate into any of my workflows. JSON retains the hierarchy and is trivially parsed in almost any programming language. I bet a JSON file containing the exact same data would be much smaller also, since you don’t list each tag twice.

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      • bob_lemon@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I still want someone to explain to me why XML even needs namespaces (which cause about 95% of all issues regarding XML).

        There is a way to separate different XML structures, it’s called files.

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        XML is also tricky to parse because people forget it is for documents too. It’s basically like HTML. Mixed content elements are allowed. <foo>hey <bar>there</bar> friend</foo> is valid XML. So iterating over elements is trickier than JSON (which is just key value pairs and arrays).

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      • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There are parsing libraries, maybe not as many or as open, but they exist.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    YAML is evil.

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  • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s still using the lesser of 3 evils, we need a fourth structural markup language.

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    • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      "Problem: There are 3 4 standards

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      • laurelraven@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Obligatory xkcd

        Standards

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    • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      >TOML has entered the channel

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    • acockworkorange@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The lesser of what?

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  • tinkling4938@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    YAML is (mostly) a superset of JSON. Is the face hugger any less evil than the alien bursting out of your chest?

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s got enough serious flaws and quirks that I can feel smug hating on it. JSON is far from perfect, but overall it’s the least worst of human-readable formats.

      Only Python manages to get away with syntactical indentation.

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      • renzev@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The complaints about yaml’s quirks (no evaluating to false, implicit strings, weird number formats, etc.) are valid in theory but I’ve never encountered them causing any real-life issues.

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  • Arghblarg@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hmm, hard to argue with that :P

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  • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Idk, I never used the weird advanced features of YAML, but the basics seems really nice for stuff you want a non programmer to edit.

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