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• fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I mean I agree with him here. It’s ridiculous how we are still this tribalistic species while basically everyone would be better off when we would work together (e.g. climate change would be non-existent)

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  • Saleh@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Passports weren’t a general concept until the end of the 19th century. Before they were mostly to allow passage to certain areas inside one country, rather than for movement between countries. There have been Identifications for Nobels and Diplomats though.

    Anyways the whole concept is mostly a concept of modern nation states not of ancient tribalism.

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    • kn33@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think the point is that the tribalism led to the creation of the nations/states in the first place. I don’t know enough to know if that’s true, but that was my interpretation of their comment.

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      • codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This was also my understanding and I begrudgingly agree with NDT that borders and states and tribalism are bad. I don’t agree with complaining about lines. Damn dude, sucks to have to be a regular participant in society, maybe of bureaucrats got paid better or there were more people working the passport desk.

        Or… and i know this is fucking wild, he made up that story because in the US you get passports in the mail. Yeah, you have to maybe wait in a short line for some steps but overall you just send in your info and wait 6 weeks.

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      • Juice@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The state is formed by the historical mode of production, its like a contradiction that is the resolution to all of the other contradictions present in market social relations. In other words the state is based on how stuff gets made, and who accumulates the value inherent in the stuff, which is in essence the congealed work that went into making that stuff.

        Politics and culture is always a factor in what shape the state takes, since politics and culture are social structures and sources of power themselves, bug politics is downstream from production

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      • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Drag has seen criticism of the term “tribalism” as it normalises the idea that tribes were bad. Tribes were actually way more sensible than modern governments. Blaming the unique problems of developed societies on indigenous tribes is kinda messed up. Sectarianism is a better word.

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  • superkret@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    In tribal times, there were no maps and the borders moved a lot, but when you crossed them, you generally got driven back or killed.
    This goes back to before there were humans, and all other territorial animals do it, too.

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  • IronKrill@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It is possible to agree with something and still believe it is terribly presented.

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  • Crampon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Bold claim stating that climate change wouldn’t be real if we just worked together. As if we didn’t live in an ice age as the same species we are now.

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  • DuckBilledMongoose@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Just evolve into a homo without tribalism then and outbreed the rest of us

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• RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yes, but… did you know, if you kiss a mirror you will always kiss yourself on the lips. How’s that?

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  • _____@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    actually schizoposting before it was popular

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• tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Saying dumb shit with smart words is pretty tight tho.

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  • Sergio@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Expressing the basest of notions with the loftiest of words is the pinnacle of wit.

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