Comment on Ice cream machine is also broken

• Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Still might not cover healthcare either.

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• fan0m@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I think I’m getting tired of people putting survival over standing up to the system.

  Should people that still work at Twitter get a pass for the destruction it’s doing because there are lower level employees that need a paycheck to survive? How about employees at Google that indirectly enable Google to amass data at such a large scale it becomes impossible to have any privacy?

  I understand the need to survive. Does a McDonalds worker lose anything by not turning the guy in? Is 50k worth the potential long term gain for society if the rich become fearful?

  Maybe after a certain point even those trying to survive should be equally to blame for the negativity their contributions bring. Where that line is, I’m not sure.

  This transaction feels like a bribe to keep the poors in check. “Here’s enough money for a small trailer to live in. Have fun.”

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  • rImITywR@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I’m getting tired of people putting survival over standing up to the system.

    That’s a pretty privileged position to take. "Hey you, poor person, you should die so I have the opportunity to benefit from the system changing. Is that any different from what CEO was doing?

    Does a McDonalds worker lose anything by not turning the guy in?

    Yes, $50k.

    I’m not trying to justify it. I’m just pointing out that a year and a half salary is a pretty strong incentive. That is the opportunity to quit your job and not worry about money for a couple of months while you look for a better job. Whether you work at McDicks or Xitter, I understand the appeal of that. And I think a lot of people at least consider that.

    Maybe after a certain point even those trying to survive should share the blame for the negativity their contributions bring.

    This transaction feels like a bribe to keep the poors in check.

    I mean, yeah. That’s the whole point. But I still don’t blame the individuals that are also victims of the system.

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    • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Nah, its more that if i had a way to impact the system, id do so in a heartbeat even if it meant my death so that others could benefit. Hence, I expect the same of the people that have been through what ive been through. The customer and the employee have the privileged position because they evidently dont know that hardship or dont care. How you work at mcdonalds and dont understand that rich people are evil is beyond me, so for the employee im leaning more towards doesnt care. Which, again, due to experiancing the trauma of living in the US and not being wealthy, means that he is the definition of a class traitor and is on the level of the CEOs. He saw an opportunity to get his, fuck everyone else.

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I fully agree. I’d be the first to defend the rat as a victim of the system, but fucking hell he didn’t risk losing his job or death by just looking the other way, doing what you need to do to survive isn’t an excuse to outright aid the bastards and that same logic definitely extends to xitter employees etc. who’d have every other tech company fight for them if they left.

        I’m starting to think The Matrix had the right idea. Until someone is “awake” they can easily turn into an agent of the system, a dedicated defender of it, and as such we can’t think of them as friends.

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    • fan0m@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I don’t disagree with anything you said. It is a privileged position to take, and I’m not denying that. This is the real life trolly problem.

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Here’s enough money for a small trailer to live in

    ehh more like a car… it will be a used car if they have to pay taxes on it.

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• pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Are they actually going to pay that out?

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  • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    They usually do, it’s pennies to the government. Notice however, it’s information leading to the arrest AND conviction. They’re not getting paid anytime soon, if at all.

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    • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      They don’t pay out unless you call crime stoppers. If they called 911 they don’t pay out.

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      • MsPenguinette@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It’ll takes years as well

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