Comment on Post-election blues

spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It wasn’t even exactly that. It was MILLIONS of people who voted Democrat previously just sitting this one out. I don’t think there are 15 Million “Gaza or bust” voters so this was just pure ignorance…

  “Trump is horrible, but the Democrats made inflation. I’m not voting for either.” (Conveniently forgetting COVID and the necessary cash injection that helped keep people paying bills on time and kept businesses afloat to be there to rehire when lockdowns ended.) Ignorance…

  Not that it was perfectly executed by any stretch of the imagination, but the alternative was everyone “non-essential” goes broke and businesses everywhere collapse. :/

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  • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think there are 15 Million “Gaza or bust” voters so this was just pure ignorance…

    I believe there were 15 million "oh look, Harris is besties with Liz Cheney and continuing the half assed approach that Dems keep doing so who fucking cares’ people. I totally see why her poll numbers kept dropping over the course ofnher campaign after a strong start.

    I still voted for her, but at that point is was just another vote against Republicans.

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    • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think that takes more thought than even those who vote with us do. I think we seriously overestimate the political intelligence of the people in this country. Not to say 0% were those people, but if we’re talking millions I think we’re talking about typical ignorance.

      I think the vast majority vote D for social issues, but onces their pocketbook gets hurt it’s time to sit it out or worse “punish” the party in power by voting for the opposition. :(

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So they thought through what it means to associate with a Cheney, but at the same time didn’t care enough to do anything about this situation? I don’t buy it. Apathy lost this election. And democrats share blame for that obviously, but acting like voters were right to stay home isn’t the right takeaway.

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      • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And democrats share blame for that obviously, but acting like voters were right to stay home isn’t the right takeaway.

        Agreed, which is why I still voted despite sharing the same demotivation.

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      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You will never admit that moving to the right has failed.

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    • kreskin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      there were 15 million voters who had one reason or another to roll the dice on a candidate they knew was nuts. That is pretty far removed from stupidity or idealogical purism. There are a ton of reasons she lost, not just one. I keep hearing from friends and relatives that groceries are a challenge now. The pundits seem spot on in identifying that as probably one of the larger reasons. But all these people on these threads blaming it on the voters when Harris had it in her power to run a different campaign is just lazy.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hey now, you cannot blame voters. Only rage into the void about Democrats, that’s the only thing that can help. I mean it clearly worked before, right!? /s

    Source: many Lemmy users.

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    • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Down the street, a guy’s house burned down. Of course, we all blame him for it - and his failure to find a message that resonated with the firefighters, to motivate them to come save the building.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lol I hate that your analogy made me laugh because it’s awful but all I have else to do is cry, so thanks?

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      • Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Crassus approves.

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There was no world where we just didn’t do lockdowns

    Maybe the world where Trump implemented the pandemic response plan that Obama left for him. But, no, we got Mr. Inject-Bleach-And-Shove-A-Lightbulb-Up-Your-Ass.

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    • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And-Shove-A-Lightbulb-Up-Your-Ass.

      At least then they could say they had a bright idea!

      …I’ll see myself out.

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  • Alteon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hey, so the 15 million thing isn’t true. That was the number before all of the votes came in. She actually gained votes in battleground states, but lost them in non-battleground states (states that didn’t really matter). Just a heads up. We need to be using facts here (not trying to attack, just trying to get that information out).

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    • DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re right but it’s 12 million less than Biden got so your not really establishing anything over than the number was a little less in the final tally. Everything they said is exactly right

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    • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I appreciate the correction!

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  • UristMcHolland@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We probably didn’t need the lockdowns because COVID spread regardless :(

    Gee I wonder why that happened. Couldn’t have been this

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  • DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, I would be utterly shocked if the Gaza issue lost her that many votes.

    It’s utterly detestable how short voter memory is.

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