I would love to try LSD, but I’m too worried about serotonin syndrome because of the medications I take.
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HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 days ago
As someone who does LSD whenever she can (Which is… sadly not as often as you’d think)
This doesn’t surprise me
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Serotonin syndrome is somewhat of a phobia more than a rational fear with modern medications.
Unless you’re taking a MAOi, which I somewhat doubt (as they’re not really used anymore due ti safety concerns and whatnot), you should be alright.
Serotonin syndrome is still sort of in the recreational drug users mythos, because being too careful isn’t really harmful, and people don’t really understand neuropharmacology that much, so they tend “not to risk it.”
vice.com/…/everything-you-need-to-know-about-mixi…
(MDMA and LSD are both serotonergic, but MDMA is more risky in terms of serotonin syndrome than LSD.)
I’m not suggesting anyone on medications reads this and thinks I’m saying it’s a risk-free thing, but since we be adopted SSRI instead of MAOi, it’s not nearly as big of a risk. MAOi and psychedelics was honestly very risky.
SSRI’s tend just to blunt the effects of psychedelics/mdma. If you keep to normal recreational doses, it should be fine. From the article:
Again, the real danger lies in what both Charlotte and Nilu describe as a chase to catch up with their friends who aren’t on antidepressants.
“You won’t be getting the euphoric, psychological effects you want by taking more, but you will be getting more of the physiological effects – higher blood pressure, higher heart rate and higher temperature, which is a bummer,” says Dr Sessa. “These are not normally dangerous. MDMA is a relatively safe drug. We know that because so many people take it and come to no harm. But in excessive doses, because you’re trying to overcome the effect of being on the SSRIs, these may become dangerous.”
So no need to be that worried about the side effects, but also while you’re on SSRI, the experience probably will be a bit muted and you might have some slight discomfort. Who knows, it’s a bit personal and depends on your meds.
Not trying to advice, just informing a bit as I’m pretty well versed on the subject even if I do say so myself.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s more complicated than that and I think it’s just not worth the risk. I have a nerve disorder which I take the medication for, and it’s three medications: an SNRI, a GABA analogue and an anticonvulsant. I just don’t know that adding LSD into a mix like that is a good idea, because even if none of those individually could cause it, collectively, who knows? It’s not like it’s a common mix.
But I do appreciate it.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I won’t pretend to have such deep knowledge as to claim to know they’re safe, but as far as I’m aware (which again, is some, but am not a medical professional), the N of the SNRI shouldn’t really be affected directly. But that doesn’t mean that if you get a little bit jittery when you’re going up that you won’t have increased norepinephrine which would then be blocked from reuptake.
So yeah, it’s somewhat more complicated. Anticonvulsants are basically what you’d use to come down from a trip (depending on which type, there’s a lot), so I don’t see any obvious risks in that either. GABA should likewise not be a problem, as not directly affected, and like anticonvulsants, some of them are used as anti-psychotics.
However with those meds, even if I could say it’s safe (whichever again, I can’t, but personally believe it to be of low risk, due to the things I’ve read concerning), I don’t know if I’d say it’s worth it, really.
Like you wouldn’t enjoy a night out if you had the flu, basically, but it wouldn’t be that risky. Even though like getting a bad case of pneumonia and not treating it might be fatal, but quite a small risk. Probably on the same level, these risks.
collectively, who knows?
No-one, honestly. But the internet is pretty hard at work on it.
Although they started with recreational polysubstance combinations, actual meds don’t appear on the list too often unless they can be uses recreationally.
…wikipedia.org/…/List_of_polysubstance_combinatio…
But yeah, safety is #1 when using drugs.
Twista713@lemmy.world 2 days ago
As a former recreational user of many substances(not LSD though), I understand your hesitancy. I had many great experiences on shrooms so I tend to recommend that before LSD. I just think it’s not as intense and has a lower probability of negative interactions or experiences, but that’s just based on what I’ve seen/heard/read. There are knock off versions of shrooms in vape shops but I have no idea what they are like.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I figured you’d only really be able to buy it in bulk on the dark web.
can@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Or just go to a festival
nomous@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Until very recently festivals were a major source of LSD distribution in the U.S.
Not so much regular attendees buying 10 strips but people who know each other meeting up at various festivals to exchange larger quantities of dry, crystal LSD. I don’t know how much it’s changed in the last decade or so, probably not that much.
GiveMemes@jlai.lu 2 days ago
True! You used to be able to track LSD in the US by looking at the grateful dead tour schedule, matter of fact lmao.
Mango@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It comes around when it comes around. We don’t pick.
bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
do I have three days to burn on this
Your thought to yourself, probably
Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
I really want to experiment with psychedelics but I have no idea where to even start on obtaining them lol
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You’re on the internet. Halfway there.
Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
*safely obtain them. I don’t know how to tell apart legit sites and honeypots, and as a trans girl in Texas I am really really really worried about potentially being arrested. So I don’t risk it, and I probably won’t until I meet someone I can trust irl who can help me get access tbh.
BobGnarley@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Get a lysergemide analogue from a reputable chem site. Chems.ca comes to mind as the most trustworthy in the USA.
Technically not illegal as long as you say you weren’t going to use it for human consumption. Research only.
Its more expensive than street L but depending on your sources most likely way, way cleaner. Its from a legitimate lab so you know its synthesized correctly.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Okay, yeah, I can’t definitely understand that.
I’m unsure as to how much of this I can talk about here, but what online stores have going for them is often safety and reliability. Unless the markets are “cashing out”, they’re usually safe.
(“Cashing out” as in they have a functional market people use, then when it’s been going for a while, they’re decide to end it, they just stop relaying orders but keep the money that’s in escrow, usually still get action for some days/weeks, leading to huge profits.)
That being said, you’d need a safe mailbox to order to, so as not to order drugs to your own home.
But yeah, IRL can be better, especially because you can then have someone who instructs you or acts as a tripsitter if you feel like you like to have one.
IRL can also be worse, because you don’t really know what you’re getting for a certainty. Unlike with online traders, because you can choose someone who has hundreds of positive comments and a good rating.
People honest don’t know how easy getting drugs is in most parts of the world, which is what makes it hard for them, which in turn makes it easy for everyone who does know, because you can quite comfortably do your business in front of people who are totally oblivious to it.
But yeah. Don’t get arrested in Texas for drugs as a trans-girl, I strongly agree with that. Hope Harris wins and the US could perhaps improve a bit. Stay safe, sister. <3
Twista713@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’ve found multiple friendly employees at vape shops in both Arkansas and Oklahoma, especially in the college cities of course. But that might be a productive avenue that’s worth trying out.
Best of luck from an ally not too far away!
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I know they ain’t quite the same, but you might be better served at finding some spores. It’s the mushrooms that will get you in trouble.
Peyote might be an option given your locale.
socsa@piefed.social 2 days ago
It's a different world these days. Two decades ago I'd do rails of molly out of an Altoids can which was being passed around a festival campsite. Now anything can have fent in it. Shit sucks and I kind of feel bad that kids these days have to deal with this.
Retrograde@lemmy.world 2 days ago
True, you have to teach people how to obtain and use testing kits