Comment on What prevents Linux from being installed on mobile devices?

BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• mkwt@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Another aspect to this is that Android is Linux, but it is not GNU / Linux. This is true both in the literal sense of not using GNU coreutils or glibc, and also in the broader sense.

  What I mean by the “broader” sense:

  • no X or Wayland
  • GTK or Qt support is something an application has to bring with them.
  • filesystem is substantially reorganized
  • users and system permissions setup substantially differently

  To the application programmer Android Linux looks like a completely different ball game.

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What prevents Linux from being installed on mobile devices?

    Android is Linux, but it is not GNU / Linux

    You’ll see that’s not the question that was asked. And it’s okay not to give Stallman any more validation for his fame-grab.

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• JetpackJackson@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  And you can (sometimes) install something like PostmarketOS which is closer to the kind of linux people think about when they hear “Linux”

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  • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    PostmarketOS isn’t “closer”… It fully is GNU/Linux.

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    • actionjbone@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You are correct. His statement wasn’t about technology, it was about expectations.

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• sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Android is maintaining a fork of Linux kernel that has since diverged.

  Its like saying MAC is UNIX, technically yes but not really

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  • dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Its like saying MAC is UNIX, technically yes but not really

    macOS is UNIX-based. Period. In fact, “[s]tarting with Leopard, macOS has been certified as compatible with the Single UNIX Specification version 3 (SUSv3).” Source

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    • sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Exactly Android also is “Linux based” period.

      That’s my point.

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      • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Mac isn’t UNIX based, it is UNIX and comes with many of the UNIX tools a user would expect. Completely different situation.

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    • Blaster_M@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      so macOS is sus

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  • ricdeh@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    macOS is definitely Unix. In the literal sense that it is actually certified (unlike FreeBSD, for example), and it is very much Unix-y under the hood.

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  • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    As far as I can tell literally everything (except for windows) is UNIX, it isn’t exactly a high bar to pass, it’s like saying all drinks are water based which is technically true but I’m not going to give a kid a wine box when I run out of juice boxes.

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• zante@lemmy.wtf ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Linux is synonymous with open source and freedom and to some extent privacy.

  android is synonymous with Google

  I’m only guessing, but when people ask about a Linux tablet or phone, they actually want the former, rather than the later, even though android is a Linux derivative, as you rightly said.

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  • dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    FYI, Android is open source.

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    • zante@lemmy.wtf ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I don’t know if you are deliberately missing the point ?

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      • dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I didn’t miss the point. Maybe you’re conflating a distribution with an operating system. But, since you brought it up:

        1. LineageOS
        2. GrapheneOS
        3. Fire OS
        4. Many more…

        My point is that — at least in my eyes — open source is not synonymous with one single project. Do with that what you will.

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