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BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 1 week ago
That is some savage shit. If Eminem were at the table, he would have taken notes.
Comment on Anon goes to dinner with coworkers
BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 1 week ago
That is some savage shit. If Eminem were at the table, he would have taken notes.
superkret@feddit.org 1 week ago
The potato joke is also a joke about a genocide.
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
It’s a joke about being the victim of genocide.
In this case the equivalent joke would be a holocaust joke, which would probably get you fired even faster.
SARGE@startrek.website 1 week ago
Legitimately, if they’re American, the people in HR probably wouldn’t even believe you if you told them about what actually happened during the Irish famine, or how England treated them for decades directly leading to “the troubles”
They would assume you’re making it up.
I’m not joking
I was more or less taught in school “oh well it was an oopsie-woopsie, all the crops died but England tried to help them! Oh well, such a terrible natural disaster.”
I didn’t learn about the darker side of things until I read into it outside school.
The US education system is a joke.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Curious. I wonder if the region you grew up in influenced this at all… as I am from an area full of ethnically Irish folk who’s roots trace back to emigres during the famine, and we definitely were taught that the bloody English were to blame!
BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 1 week ago
Oh, then what’s the problem?
superkret@feddit.org 1 week ago
The Irish genocide is far enough in the past to have become sort of “folklore”.
No one who experienced it is still alive or in living memory.
That makes it better suited for small talk.
vind@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Oh it’s still in living memory, Ireland and Irish culture still hasn’t recovered from it.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
Also, unlike the Shoa/Holocaust, it’s not that commonly known that the potato famine was a genocide, inflicted by the english.
That doesn’t make the Iseraeli’s comment ok. Just that they probably didn’t know how much their comment was in bad taste.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
By that logic we’ll be allowed to laugh about Jews and ovens in about 60 years, right?
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 week ago
Would you mind explaining what happened? I don’t know anything about Irish History.
BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 1 week ago
I’d like to tangentially add that Irish people are possible the most chillest when it comes to their ethnicity and identity. About 11 years ago, I got obsessed with pretending I was Irish for a few months during and after dating an Irish-American girl. I had a terrible fake accent, drank Jameson or Maker’s Mark, bragged about my fame with Irish good-bye’s, etc. I am in no way Irish in the slightest, and I don’t think anyone would even think that. Not one Irish person seemed offended. If anything, they welcomed it and found it entertaining at the least. I think that if I did that with any other ethnicity, people would at least be offended if not angry and retaliatory.
Anyone else experience this? If so, any insight on why this may be?
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Wasn’t the potato famine a natural disaster though?
superkret@feddit.org 1 week ago
The potato blight was a natural disaster.
The famine was caused by the British exporting the same amount of potatoes out of Ireland as before.
vind@lemmy.world 1 week ago
They didn’t export potatoes out of Ireland, they exported everything else. Meaning there was no other food but potatoes for the Irish to eat.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Also, monoculture, but yeah. Points at Cavendish bananas.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Ahh, I see.
fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Not entirely. Yes there was blight affecting crops but there was more to it than that.
Huge volumes of unaffected produce were exported to England for profit - the decreased yields only impacting the market for locals. Previous famines has seen the British ban exports to ensure the local population had access to food (which also decreased the prices) but not this time around.
English landlords of Irish property were evicting their tenants who weren’t able to pay (since the blight impacted many people’s ability to work) with zero notice or rights for the tenants. Absentee landlords were extracting huge amounts of capital out of the Irish economy, owning vast swathes of the entire country.
The Irish were widely dependent on the potato as a primary form of sustenance but it was due to the potato being high in calories, cheap and easy to grow, and high density yields from relatively small plots of land (landlords dividing up the land into incredibly small divisions whilst simultaneously extracting the highest rent possible for the land).
The Irish were, in essence, forced to eat potatoes due to the extreme economic exploitation they were subject to.
Yet there was no aid from England; she simply sat by reaping profit and leaving things up to the divine - “the market will provide”. There had been efforts to change tariffs and laws but the contention in the governing party about providing aid caused the Prime Minister to resign and the subsequent government threw out all efforts (except those such as offering relief to those without land which forced many Irish to sell what land they had to gain relief and aid).
A Prime Minister at the time launched a commission to investigate and it was found that the absentee landlord system was abhorrent and principally responsible for the famine.
Sadly 1/4 of the population perished, and another 1/4 simply left the country. In some ways, Ireland never recovered.