Comment on i will never understand scientific fraud

Breve@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

• SoleInvictus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

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  • Facebones@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I don’t fully understand the field of course, but I appreciate this comment FWIW.

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  • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    From the outside it’s not obvious how many variables influence scientific research that have absolutely nothing to do with science or the pursuit of knowledge and truth.

    Being scientifically literate is insufficient. We must also be highly sceptical and apply critical thinking to the work of other scientists, particularly when large sums of money are involved and the inevitable conflicts of interest that entails.

    People with money are able to fund research but they will never be scientists because they are only interested in what is true to the extent it will make money.

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• dariusj18@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  This kind of behavior would still exist without money. People would still fake stuff for the clout.

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  • Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Sure but money motivates more people than clout alone

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    • dariusj18@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      That’s only because money exists. If you removed money from the equation, clout would be the new currency that everyone lies and cheats for.

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      • Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Thats entirely hypothetical and unprovable

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      • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        But being caught in a lie would destroy your clout instantly. If they’re competing for clout there would be a big incentive to prove the competition wrong.

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• Xephonian@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Nah. Money is simply the mechanism that reveals true character.

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  • DempstersBox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Wow, that’s a crock of shit, classist take

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  • NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    That is absolute nonsense. Where does the idea that the nastiest expression of desires is the truest come from? It’s a completely absurd and unverifiable idea.

    People do stuff, putting people in power over others tends to result in the people doing worse stuff. The variable we can tweak here is the power.

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    • eatthecake@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Power gives people the freedom to act as they choose, and they choose a lot of nastiness. Does it not make sense that unconstrained choices represent who a person truly is?

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  I mean, science doesn’t pay for itself. You need libraries, you need universities, you need equipment. Only a mathematician can get by with a $5 black board and stack of chalk, and even then not very well.

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  • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    And he needs a calculator, because without one he isn’t going to be very fast with his research.

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