This kind of behavior would still exist without money. People would still fake stuff for the clout.
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Breve@pawb.social 5 months ago
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dariusj18@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Daxtron2@startrek.website 5 months ago
Sure but money motivates more people than clout alone
dariusj18@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s only because money exists. If you removed money from the equation, clout would be the new currency that everyone lies and cheats for.
Daxtron2@startrek.website 5 months ago
Thats entirely hypothetical and unprovable
SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
But being caught in a lie would destroy your clout instantly. If they’re competing for clout there would be a big incentive to prove the competition wrong.
Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 5 months ago
Nah. Money is simply the mechanism that reveals true character.
DempstersBox@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Wow, that’s a crock of shit, classist take
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 5 months ago
That is absolute nonsense. Where does the idea that the nastiest expression of desires is the truest come from? It’s a completely absurd and unverifiable idea.
People do stuff, putting people in power over others tends to result in the people doing worse stuff. The variable we can tweak here is the power.
eatthecake@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Power gives people the freedom to act as they choose, and they choose a lot of nastiness. Does it not make sense that unconstrained choices represent who a person truly is?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I mean, science doesn’t pay for itself. You need libraries, you need universities, you need equipment. Only a mathematician can get by with a $5 black board and stack of chalk, and even then not very well.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 months ago
And he needs a calculator, because without one he isn’t going to be very fast with his research.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Facebones@reddthat.com 5 months ago
I don’t fully understand the field of course, but I appreciate this comment FWIW.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 5 months ago
From the outside it’s not obvious how many variables influence scientific research that have absolutely nothing to do with science or the pursuit of knowledge and truth.
Being scientifically literate is insufficient. We must also be highly sceptical and apply critical thinking to the work of other scientists, particularly when large sums of money are involved and the inevitable conflicts of interest that entails.
People with money are able to fund research but they will never be scientists because they are only interested in what is true to the extent it will make money.