Comment on Those poor plants

• LordGimp@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s always funny to me how people eat up the concept of a distrubuted neural network in tech but scoff at the same idea applying to something like a tree or a fungus.

  Pando is the largest organism by mass, and the Humungous Fungus is the largest by area. The idea that those organisms don’t “think” in some way is laughable.

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  • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “In some way” is doing A LOT of heavy lifting there. … although in the general sense, agreed.

    Especially given how many outright wrong or ofherwise assinine conclusions some “thinking” animals come to… Perhaps communicative consciousness is overrated on the intelligence scale.

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  • x4740N@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It always seems lime some excuse in a counter response by vеgаns

    The number of times I’ve responded to them telling them that plants probably process pain in a different way to us has always been shot down by them

    Tell them that brains extremely simplified are just on and off responses to certain stimuli / information just like plants have specific reponsonses to stimuli and computers having 1’s and 0’s that respond to information

    A fungal network could be counted as a brain

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    • BlackDragon@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you actually believe harming plants causes them pain and that that is bad, you should be vegan. Animal agriculture harms far, far more plants than any plant agriculture ever could.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But then you’re still causing plants pain by farming and eating them. Isn’t that argument no different than saying if you believe that harming animals causes them pain, you should be in favor of eating the ones that are hunted because farming them causes more pain?

        I really don’t know if plants can cause pain and I think the environmental arguments for not eating meat are far more compelling than the ethical ones, but regardless, I think this is a poor argument for veganism.

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  • VelvetStorm@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You should read the book “entangled life” if you haven’t already. It’s fascinating.

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    • LordGimp@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ll trade you. I’ll read ur book if you check out the ender quintet, or at least speaker of the dead. The hierarchy of foreignness is a concept that has REALLY stuck with me. Also pequininos are bros.

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  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    because humans invent things from scratch that nature has already created and optimzed, it’s why we’re seeing a lot of optimizations on current tech that comes from nature itself.

    It’s a really weird problem to have.

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    • LordGimp@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Go find that video of a slime mold optimizing Japan’s rail system by finding oats in a maze

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      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        isn’t this similar to or equivalent in concept to letting water pathfind through a maze for example?

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• hellfire103@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Huh, neat.

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• theyoyomaster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm3JodBR-vs

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• TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I dont mean this as a “dunk” but more of a how neat is that

  It’s truly shameful that disclaimers like these feel necessary in this age of shitting on everyone else online. Lemmy users suck too.

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  • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, but on the other hand I’m old enough to know that when I get excited about something I can talk about it in a way that “clobbers” so I like to disclaimer myself when I know I’m exhibiting that kind of behavior.

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