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• JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh I’m well aware. Hexbear seems to be the biggest hive of bastards I’ve encountered on all of the federated instances. Every hexbear post I see is either super right wing or just insanely cringe My Little Pony type stuff.

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  • Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    its almost like hexbear is full of pedo right wing shit heads or something

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    • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I get the impression everyone on there is typically on 4chan. It’s a cesspool.

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• Godric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lol no, they’re not right wing. They just share the trait of being moronically devoted to their preferred ideology.

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• oatscoop@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh, they’re real – I’ve met several in person. It’s very rare they’re older than “young adult”.

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• Sotuanduso@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I can’t keep track of this one-dimensional political spectrum people keep using. I thought tankies, socialists, communists, and liberals were all considered left wing, but I keep hearing things about some of these groups being on the right instead.

  When can we upgrade to the political tesseract?

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  • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hexbear is more or less a 4Chan equivalent, sharing the same memes and single image posting behavior. They exist to make left leaning people look bad.

    Their supposed communism is equivalent to start an argument online with “as a black man”

    Just a bunch of right wing trolls.

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    • archomrade@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is the take that bothers me the most, as if the most aggressive and outspoken faction of any group exist only to drag the more respectable members down by association.

      I would be one thing to say, “I don’t understand that group”, but it’s quite remarkable to say, “I understand that group so little that they must be the opposition in disguise”

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      • FaeDrifter@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is the take that bothers me the most, as if the most aggressive and outspoken faction of any group exist only to drag the more respectable members down by association.

        Eh, only a small minority of hexbears are fascists, but almost all hexbears tolerate fascists. All the fascists have to do is walk in and say “NATO is bad, Ukraine is bad, libs are bad, vote for Trump because he is a big lovable goofball” and the other hexbears are like aight let’s own the shitlibs.

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      • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s blatant though? They use right wing talking points for everything and it’s all dog whistles?

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      • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Again, they are “left wingers” supporting far right regimes. Its bit that big a consipracy

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  • AmberPrince@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, people say right-wing when what they mean is authoritarian. There’s a guy named Bob Altemeyer that has been studying authoritarianism for decades and he makes a distinction between left wing and right wing authoritarianism.

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    • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’d make sense, but there’s a good deal of stuff typically considered left wing (like antimisinformation and gun control) that is authoritarian too. Nothing inherently wrong with that, as long as it’s handled fairly, of course.

      The troll in me kinda wants to see how people would react if I started calling them righties for wanting to stop hate speech, but I think I know better.

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      • Cabrio@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Society required a socially agreed upon level of authoritarianism to enforce the socially agreed upon rukeset. No system of organisation or control is absent from authority, but trying to conflate functional social authority with forced authoritarianism has been something I’m seeing a lot more from fascist thinkers.

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  • s_s@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s not many all-in on authoritarianism that aren’t extreme left or right economically.

    The political compass is better than a one-dimensional spectrum, but it’s literally twice as complicated.

    You can pretty safely plot a U shaped line running through the political compass and find almost everybody. That’s why one-axis works well for describing the political climate of the USA, it’s mostly in the right half of the political compass sitting on this line.

    So tankies are very Communist (left) and necessarily very authoritarian to achieve their goals.

    They represent the other half of the political compass that Americans usually do not see. So people get confused.

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    • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, political compass is more precise, but I like splitting social and economics too, which makes a cube. Then I said tesseract as a joke.

      But “us vs them” doesn’t work as well when “them” has so much nuance.

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  • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “In popular discourse, the horseshoe theory asserts that the far-left and the far-right, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear continuum of the political spectrum, closely resemble each other, analogous to the way that the opposite ends of a horseshoe are close together.”

    From Wikipedia

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• PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Extreme left-wing ideology is indistinguishable from extreme right-wing ideology. They both want to kill lots of people, and if you aren’t on their side you’re on their shit list.

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  • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You are thinking on a 2d axis. I find the politcal compass to be a better way to think of of.

    Im on the far bottom left. A more libertarian communist. Tankies, supposedly, are on the top left.

    AlthoughI still think hexbear users arent engaging in legitimate debate.

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    • Cruxifux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The political compass is garbage. All of those political spectrum simplifications are.

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      • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        My point was that its much better than simply “left” or “right” on one single axis.

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