Why would you make fun of people for not knowing things?
Comment on Anon saves their vacation days
I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 2 years ago
What a dumbass
refalo@programming.dev 2 years ago
Schmuppes@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Anon was probably told when he started his job.
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Yeah, told in a 50,000 word contract that would take 6 lawyers to figure out.
Meanwhile the average person is just looking for a fucking job and doesn’t have the time to worry about what the contract says.
redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Sure, but of those 50,000 words, a tiny subset has to do with PTO or leave (and I’d bet that that section of the contract is specifically mentioned in the table of contents). Homie decided that he wanted to do something special with their leave time. Something out of the ordinary. Then, they chose to not ask their HR department, their supervisor, their co-workers, or consult their presumably readily available company policy archive to research for themselves whether their plan was viable.
I understand not wanting to victim blame, but, as presented in this story, this individual is a victim of their own negligence, and that is something that we can hold folks accountable for.
Schmuppes@lemmy.world 2 years ago
My current contract is one page long. But granted, it is based on a tariff that was negotiated by unions, so it doesn’t list all those details and just refers to said negotiation results.
JameUwU@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
[deleted]SugarSnack@lemm.ee 2 years ago
If OP has an employment contract and can read, then it’s entirely their fault. This is something that’s easy to check and is written down so that both sides are clear what the terms are. Even if they can’t read they should have asked someone to read it to them.
JameUwU@lemmy.ml 2 years ago
[deleted]sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
A lot of companies don’t have a contract (mine just had an offer letter), but they’ll have a benefits description, which will have stuff like the PTO policy. Read that every so often, and do it on the clock.
uis@lemm.ee 2 years ago
In most countries stacking does work
meliaesc@lemmynsfw.com 2 years ago
But to not read what benefits you have, and not check your PTO balance for 4 entire years?
uis@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Well, in civilized countries you don’t need to check it, you just know it stacks.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Assuming it’s a true story.
The vacation expiration rules haven’t always been around. They started showing up back in the 90s/00s, as accounting firms started counting these days as liabilities and businesses started trying to minimize how many days were outstanding on their books.
I did know a few public school teachers who did exactly this. They’d save up vacation for five years and then take a paid semester off.
Can’t do it anymore, but it wasn’t always this way.
PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Yup, it was a shift because unlimited vacation was from the boomer era where employers actually treated employees fairly well. Companies started realizing that all of the boomers who had been with the company for two or three decades all had like two years of vacation time saved up. And when that gets counted as a liability (because the employee can just fuck off and disappear for an extended period, while you keep paying them,) it was a big incentive for companies to begin limiting vacation.
Lots of the boomers were grandfathered in so they got to keep their vacation banked, mostly to avoid the “half of our entire staff just walked out of the all-hands meeting and put in for 2 years of vacation time each, because we announced we’d be clawing back any unused time at the end of the month” dilemma. But new hires get fucked with vacation time caps, and big limits on how much they can get paid out if they quit.
booly@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
the boomer era where employers actually treated employees fairly well
Lol what are you talking about
PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I’m talking about the time period where one person (with only a high school diploma) working 40 hours a week could reasonably support a family of three or four, with a modest house and two vehicles. Because pay wasn’t absolute shit compared to the cost of living.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Finding out if vacation days carry over or are use it or lose it is something you should inquire about on day 1 at the latest.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
In Canada, it’s illegal to not have vacation days or have your vacation time paid out. I’ve never heard of it happening here because it’s so easy to prove or disprove that only idiots would do it. Don’t worry, many employers will screw you over in ways that are harder to track.
uis@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Real shit in Russia too. My dad didn’t take vacations for so long, that he couldn’t continue working until he finished his vacation.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 years ago
So what do they do with your accrued vacation time when your employment ends? That’s what pay out vacation means.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
You will have all your accrued vacation paid out when you leave. It will also be paid out if you don’t use it soon enough. At my current employer, you have a little over a year. It is also possible to have it paid out on every paycheck and you have to set it aside for when you want to go on vacation, since you won’t be paid then. Here’s what it’s like in Manitoba, I suspect it isn’t very different elsewhere in Canada.