Comment on Neil deGrasse Tyson reads his peer review of Terrence Howard's mathematics theories
mrgreyeyes@feddit.nl 4 months ago
Not a fan of Neil, but this is a really respectful way in into teaching someone how scientific studies work.
It still comes off a bit douchey. He kept saying that his bluntness of the peer review would be th same as if it was a friend or colleague requesting a peer review. I didn’t get the impression that Howard was a friend or a colleague and certainly did not request a peer review. Or even understand the process of a peer review for that matter.
With that said, I do find the video interesting from the perspective of a person that also doesn’t know anything about a peer review.
Terrence sent his “paper” to NDT. Idk whether or not he was requesting a peer review but he spouts this stuff publicly constantly, he can’t be upset that people are refuting him publicly.
I’m not saying Terrence has any legs to stand on, he doesn’t.
I’m just saying it seems a little douchey to get a paper from someone that is in no way a colleague or friend and go to town on that paper. He should have treated it like an amateur that needs encouragement not a colleague that needs the hard truth.
He should have treated it like an amateur that needs encouragement not a colleague that needs the hard truth.
There is no way of saying “your fundamental method of understanding the world is faulty” in a way that someone won’t describe as “douchey”.
simplejack@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yeah, I’m still on the fence with what happened after the me-too stuff. Some women spoke out against him, but several independent investigations were not able to substantiate the claims. And after different organizations did their own investigations, they all came to the same conclusions, and let him keep his projects and jobs.
_different_username@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Same here. I’ve come to the conclusion that, if I was unwilling to accept anyone that wasn’t of the calibre of Carl Sagan to fill his shoes, I was probably going to wait a long time. I think Degrasse Tyson’s advocacy for black scientists is admirable, as is his willingness to promote religious reconciliation. These weren’t areas of focus for Sagan, but that’s ok. They can be different people, even imperfect people, and maybe that’s good.
almar_quigley@lemmy.world 4 months ago
He’s also just a bit of a prick regardless. There are so many more entertaining science personalities that don’t act pompous as fuck.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think “prick” is a bit far. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten any malice ill-intent from him. He’s just a very blunt speaker who may not immediately recognize the social repercussions of what he’s saying in the moment. I think he recognizes this and constantly apologizes for the way he speaks.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
he has had some dickish moments but when you’re constantly talking publicly that’s pretty inevitable unless you’re a saint.
undefinedValue@programming.dev 4 months ago
Not a fan of Joe Rogan but I did watch clips of his interview with Neil and prick definitely seemed like an appropriate term for him after that. Watch the clips if you don’t believe me.
Illuminostro@lemmy.world 4 months ago
almar_quigley@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yes, just because I’m speaking negatively of a black man I must be racist…. Fuck off. I made no comment on his race.
yesman@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Tyson was investigated by National Geographic and Fox to protect the shows they were producing starring him. I suppose the Natural History Museum looked into it enough to decide not to fire their star celebrity academic.
So the investigations had massive conflicts of interest actually. And none of them had an interest in his actual guilt. An none of them were victim advocates.
The accusations against Tyson are credible and they’ve never been properly investigated.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Apparently the museum used outside investigators, and Fox / Nat Geo used internal investigators.
It wouldn’t surprise me to have a media company’s bias being toward protecting their content investment. That person’s face is in every show set to run, rerun, and stream. A museum is kind of different. It’s the in-person exhibits that are the main draw, and a their bigger risk is probably the litigation from substantiated allegations.
I work in this risk / ethics space, and I’m not surprised that the museum was more motivated to look into the claims, as opposed to simply saying they looked into the claims.
And that said, I’m also just some rando on the internet.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
does he even have shoes any more? why bother if they weren’t going to use him again anyway?