Comment on "Nuisance begging" and rough sleeping as soon to be illegal

• IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  🙄 or like, you could admit you were wrong, remove the propaganda, and not resort to your head cannon 🤷‍♂️

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  • Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “aggressive homeless individuals”

    There it is.

    There’s the problem.

    You’re assuming this will be used when needed, and not used in excess, trampling down people who are already underfoot.

    All cops are bastards, no exceptions for location.

    If they CAN abuse a law, they WILL abuse it. At every opportunity.

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    • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I know. There are issues with the police, so now we can’t have laws on the books either. Despite circumstances many homeless don’t take no for an answer and threaten people. There needs to be a law to detain those people. That’s regardless of the help they will or wont get or accept before or after.

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      • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yep you can have the laws.

        By keeping them precise in what they allow police to apply.

        When the gov use terms like nuisance. It is intentionally verge.

        If its about aggressive begging or homelessness. Define it as such. Don’t intentionally leave it to a stressed officer to decide.

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• JudahBenHur@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  but you’ll leave your not-factual headline up?

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  • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    forgot, fixed, cheers

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• 520@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Slippery slope? All it does is provide an enforcement option for orgs who don't want people begging on their property.

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  • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    you don’t see that as an avenue for more and more orgs to do this by default, and given the lack of public spaces in our cities, essentially making it impossible to beg anywhere?

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    • 520@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Bro wtf are you on about? There's tons of public spaces in the UK.

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      • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        At least where I live, you’ll be hard pressed to find a spot in the city where a homeless person can sleep unnacosted, either by spikes being put down on flat surfaces, parks being closed at night, and benches that aren’t on a main road.

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I don’t think you’ve ever been to the UK. Most of those “public” spaces are corporate property and if you and your homelessness damage their brand they’ll escort you off.

        The homeless camps on high street ken during the pandemic had this happen to them all the time, as if the cruel irony of rough sleepers next to wholefoods and dyson shit blower 3k ads wasn’t enough to make humanity unevolve peered solely by cringe alone and let trilobites, or some particularly feisty proto-moss take the top spot instead.

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