I’m tired of hearing this phrase inappropriately used in such a cynical hedonistic fashion. 90% of the time I hear it, the person is using it as if to say “All consumption under capitalism is equally ethical.” Of course they don’t seriously believe that, but because they aren’t saying what they mean perhaps it allows them to maintain this cognitive dissonance.
People with this mindset would not be useful post revolution without reeducation. Y’all are just jealous of the parasitic class and would not want to make a better world if it were even a minor inconvenience to you. If we simply eat the rich and loot their coffers what we will be left with is a bunch of worthless financial instruments and the reins of the exploitative industry, and we must do more than simply grab those reins and be our own slave drivers.
crazyminner@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Yes so let’s continue finding the genocide of billions of sentient beings that can feel pain and don’t want to die for your fucking burger.
db2@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Animals all over there earth eat each other constantly, often while the meal is still alive. Grow up.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
I don’t use lions as my moral compass otherwise I would be eating toddlers.
Deepus@lemm.ee 7 months ago
You’ve never tried toddler meat?! You’re missing out there!
intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I’ll assume you’re not someone who’s ever said “eat the rich” then
jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
I don’t think you should be using wild animals as your moral compass? Or do you actually think you’re as incapable of controlling yourself as a wild dog or something?
db2@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Have you met any humans lately? 🙄
intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Oh no, our treatment of food animals is most definitely well controlled and light years beyond the morality of nature
krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
The problem is the scale at which we do it. I don’t have a problem with small and ethical farms killing some animals to sell or use themselves, but I don’t remember lions breeding their prey into slavery, injecting them with chemicals, and turning them into bigmacs millions of times over.
db2@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Also corporate industrial waste that throws away hundreds of pounds like it’s nothing. But that’s a different argument from eating meat.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Saying that scale is the problem is the epitome of collectivism. The individualist approach sees the moral landscape as the experience of the individual.
In collectivist terms, which cannot help expressing these things in terms of numbers, the individualist view can be expressed as “one is too many”.
But in individualist terms, it’s not about numbers at all. It’s about pain, pleasure, hope, fear, sadness, anger, etc.
This concept of “well anything over fifteen thousand is too many”, drawing a line between numbers and calling that line the divider between good and bad, is a sure path to evil.
tomi000@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Animals do it for survival. Humans do it for fun. By your logic, should we legalize murder because animals of the same species kill each other without consequences?
This fckn argument shows how brainwashed we as a society are. You didnt even think for 0.01s before posting this, but you did anyway because it is branded into your brain.
db2@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I eat to survive. You apparently eat to have something to proselytize about. An omnivorous diet that your distant ancestors had enabled you to have that large brain you aren’t using here. While the last part of the previous sentence is speculation based on evidence you’ve provided freely, the first part is pretty much established fact at this point.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 months ago
This viewpoint is valid as long as you agree you aren’t morally or intellectually superior to a fish.
Well, actually, many fish are obligate carnivores, so they don’t have a choice, so maybe more like a rat or a bear.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 months ago
They don’t want to die to be ground up into burger, and they don’t want its opposite either.
A right to life is most appropriate for any conscious being which benefits emotionally from that right. This requires: