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• prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Can’t wait for this to become a systemic issue with Lemmy. Why does everything have to be ruined by tankies and conservatives? They know that nobody wants to talk to them, but they will evade and disrespect the rules just to make other people miserable.

  What a sad hobby.

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  • Kedly@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tbh, I’m not super worried, theres already been defederation with Hexbear and Lemmygrad. As they infect tanky safezones and cause more defederations because of it, non tankie specific federations are going to start becoming specifically anti Tankie in response. I mean, look at how my comment calling them brain damaged, it hasnt been civility removed yet, which I feel is a good sign. So while they can always create new accounts on non Tankie federations, over time they are going to start having to hiding their more violent revolution and dictator loving sides, which tbh, at that point I’ll tolerate their presence

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    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is the part I find hilarious. MLs think the reason people don’t like their outdated brand of communism is because they are brainwashed. The reality is that people don’t like their outdated brand of communism because tankies are insufferable, know-it-all autocrats who refuse to engage with any modern formulation of Marxist theory.

      If MLs would be more academically engaged with contemporary political science, people would like their messaging much more. Of course then they’d probably realize that Lenin and Mao were just giant assholes, so I guess it’s a bit of a paradox.

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      • awwwyissss@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They don’t want to engage because communism is just a facade for them to spread CCP and Kremlin propaganda. They’re not actually communists.

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      • Kedly@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean, their messaging IS shit, but I think one of the biggest flaws that cant be overcome even if they started acting less insufferably is that they are ok with and will defend tooth and nail any dictator that says they are communist. I do not for one second believe that Xi or Putin has ANY intention of furthering LGBTQ politics for instance. Tankies whole ideology isnt thought through and HEAVILY conflicting

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    • pukeko@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s a joke (or possibly simple wisdom) about a bar that’s worth discussing here.

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      • Kedly@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is it similar to the story about a table, but for the other side of the aisle?

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  • melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tankies are reactionaries.

    Literally, the Bolsheviks were the reactionaries that suppressed and appropriated the Russian revolution, and said they were doing it at the time. ‘M-L’ is stalinism.

    They’re basically red star brand conservative reactionaries.

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    • no_name_dev_from_hell@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is just a very braindead take. Not all types of authoritarian mindset are reactionary. Red fascism is an absurd take which was originated by CIA propaganda in the 50s.

      Your critique of authoritarian states, does not make them equal. That is a centerist take that smells like a moral jerk off ritual.

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      • melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        not all authoritarianism

        Could argue that, and if you brought up Cuba I might lose, but it’s not the argument here.

        Tankies, for historical reasons, with their Russia fetish, are reactionary.

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      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Tell that to the citizens of Tambov and Kronstadt sailors in the 1920s.

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  • awwwyissss@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not a hobby, they’re paid by the CCP/Kremlin.

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    • Snowpix@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Both can be true at the same time

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      • melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nah. Gig economy.

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    • gerbler@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No they do it for free. These aren’t paid assets they’re angsty disaffected teens.

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      • awwwyissss@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Some are useful idiots, the core is paid shills. I’d be surprised if they’re not also starting to use LLMs.

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    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hey, that’s not fair - many of them are paid by the RNC to turn off left leaning voters.

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  • fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why does everything have to be ruined by tankies and conservatives?

    A lot of them are shills/bots. The Kremlin (maybe also the CCP, not sure) is supporting a bunch of political extremes, whether they agree with them or not.

    Divide and conquer in a digital age.

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  • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Think of shitty kids who like to wreck everything they touch. Whenever they try to make their own clubhouse, it usually doesn’t last long because they wind up wrecking it themselves. And while they like to wreck things, they don’t actually like living in a wrecked clubhouse. They want to be able to wreck things and laugh as others suffer from their damage and have to fix it. So they invade other clubhouses because their own is always a fucking mess.

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  • TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Have any Conservative instances been de-federated, or are there any? I’ve noticed a HUGE influx of ‘Men’s Rights’ misogynists, wondering if they came from that happening.

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