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• 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Triage is going to be a bit quicker today.

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  • SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He’s dead Jim.

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  • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    At the least, someone might be getting to the head of the line quickly…

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• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m confident that, maybe with 5min instructional time from a gun guy (or gal, women are the fastest growing group of gun owners today), anyone with a phd could be taught “push button, remove mag, rack slide” and “push button, swing cylinder, push ejector rod out.”

  They really aren’t as hard to learn to use safely as Alec Baldwin would have you believe. Shooting accurately is another matter but simply being safe is as easy as learning 4 rules and a basic knowledge of how common firearms function.

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  • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s harder to learn for many people than you might think. There are 1000’s of different kinds of types and models many with subtle differences from one another from one year to the next. Nor do you know just how mechanically sound that gangbanger’s gun is either - what parts might be broken, missing, or badly modified.

    It’s probably not worth the risk when you can just place it in a lockbox and call the cops to deal with it.

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure there’s 1000s of diff types but he doesn’t have a vickers or an mg-42 stuffed down his joggers, he has one of the many revolvers or semi autos that all function the same way. Probably could narrow it down even further, it’s likely either a glock (26, 43, 45, 19, 19x, or 17), a sig (p320 or p365), a S&W (m&p or sd9ve), a Ruger (mkIII or IV, lcp9), a taurus (lol gross), or a hi-point (also lol) or any crappy .22lr revolver. For 99.9% of guns you encounter (unless your friend is a collector,) they’re all going to function similarly enough to at least get it cleared.

      As to broken or badly modified, typically it can still be cleared, I’ve never seen a gun so badly broken that dropping the mag or racking the slide fires it. In theory, sure, but that’s why you’re following all the rules of gun safety and pointing it in a safe direction (at something that’ll catch the bullet if all goes wrong.)

      I’ve seen literal children learn how, if they can I hope a surgeon can.

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      • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You have no clue about medical liability do you.

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      • dotMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Or just put it in a lockbox

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  • Crashumbc@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re a great example why there should be more gun laws. That is probably the most dangerous reply I’ve ever heard.

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve literally seen children learn, have more faith in your surgeons, I guess.

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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You would think that. But the number of trained soldiers who have been punished for a negligent discharge while clearing their weapon would say otherwise. Also, you have to assume everyone employed at that ER is at the end of a 48 hour double shift where every attempt to sleep was interrupted less than an hour later.

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Idk man I can’t sit here and claim to be so ridiculously intelligent I can learn how to cycle a firearm faster than a literal surgeon. I mean, when I learned I was a pizza delivery man. I may have a different job now, but if a pizza man can learn it I’d hope a surgeon could pick it up pretty quick, “it isn’t brain surgery.”

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      • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The learning isn’t the problem. The exhaustion is. If people who are highly trained with firearms cannot reliably clear them while exhausted then nobody can. And the medical industry insists on seriously overworking staff.

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  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Consider that the gun may be part of the crime scene. The more people interact with it, the less useful it is as evidence.

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      While true, I’d rather the gun actually be made safe, didn’t wear my plate carrier to work today lol.

      “Sorry cops, my life is more important to me, if you need prints get them off the guy’s fingers who’s pants I just pulled this out of, it isn’t really a question of who had it, it was him.”

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Who cares? It’s an immediate threat if untouched, and the gangster’s clothes are already covered in gunpowder.

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• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t trust leaving it behind a desk counter or in a cabinet with bullets in it, personally, I feel like that’s the more dangerous option.

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  • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    IF you run across a firearm on a patient, (which is really isn’t a common thing), it gets placed in a lockbox and then locked into a “safe room”. Chances are good there be a cop there in a short order anyway due to the patient having been shot by a gun.

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    • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I honestly didn’t know that, I tend not to live my life in a way that would preclude me being shot or being around folks who will shoot someone. Thanks for the info! :)

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      • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The overwhelming number of tend to live like you also. It’s a just a few of us that make a choice to have to deal with such less than savory people.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s good that most hospitals have a system in place to handle the situation.

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  • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Gun safety courses actually discuss (at length, at least in my state) about how even if you’ve just got the gun on your desk next to you, but it’s loaded, it needs to be pointed in a safe direction. Even doing dry fire exercises (practicing, say, holstering/unholstering with the gun unloaded and the magazine removed entirely), you’re supposed to point the gun down at where the floor meets the wall to minimize any chance of anyone being hurt by an accident discharge.

    Basically, you’re supposed to follow the same rules as if the gun was loaded and you’re holding it: don’t point it at anything you aren’t willing to destroy, and know both what it is pointed at and what lies beyond that.

    I personally wouldn’t want a doctor on their 23rd hour of work to try to unload a firearm in a crowded and hectic ER, and don’t have the answer to how to handle this situation, but I’m not a medical professional so…

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