I too believe in false comparisons and slippery slope arguments.
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ad_on_is@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m not interested in veering to the right
I wasn’t interested in smoking, until I lit up the first one with my friends
L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
ad_on_is@lemmy.world 3 months ago
But isn’t that exactly what right wingers do?
L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I especially enjoy generalization fallacies. They’re one of the good ones.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 months ago
Look at the implications of what yourself is saying and then you’ll notice that your two comments promote right-wing discourses, through your irrationality. What you’re saying effectively is the same as saying one of those two things:
- Right wing discourses are highly convincing for rational people, unlike left wing ones. OR
- People are a bunch of irrationals who can’t “sieve” discourses based on rationality.
This shit is not a taboo dammit. You can - and should - sieve through the statements of any political discourse, between what’s true vs. false or moral vs. immoral. And when you do this with most right-wing discourses, you find so much babble that it’s easy to discard; or at least irreconcilable moral premises. It’s safer than you’re pretending that it is.
(NB: this is coming from a heavy smoker and a communist.)
ad_on_is@lemmy.world 3 months ago
[deleted]lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 months ago
Yes, I do. However, please focus on what is being said, not how - I’m saying that treating right-wing discourses as taboo is harmful for the left, it’s shooting our own feet.
Holyginz@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It tends to help more with trying to communicate with someone who is slow by spoon feeding them info. It doesn’t always help, case in point, but sometimes.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I would argue there is a difference between getting addicted to a drug, and trying to educate one’s self to other political views.
ad_on_is@lemmy.world 3 months ago
yeah, and I was educating myself on how people can get addicted to bad-smelling shit… and here we are.
MolochAlter@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Sounds like you believe right wingers are better at persuading people than left wingers 🤔
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 months ago
In my experience–and I’m definitely on the far left–they are.
Right wing people are often more than happy to sit down and explain–with charts and (bullshit) references why their beliefs are the only morally and ethically correct ones. People on the left tend to say things like, “I don’t have to do your emotional labor”, or “you need to educate yourself”, or reply with image macros of pigs shitting on their own balls. Yes, I know that these are broad generalizations, but this is how I’ve more often than not observed things. People on the right tend to be evangelical about their beliefs. People on the left tend to treat socially/fiscally conservative ideas as though they are contagions that need to be quarantined or removed.
This isn’t always the case; I’ve definitely seen circular firing squads in alt-right circles (see also: Moms For Liberty melting down over their leaders’ sex lives and sex harassment), but I’ve seen it far more often in leftist spaces, and far more purity tests with leftist groups.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
I think it’s a bad idea to frame conservatism as something so attractive that you will inevitably become addicted to it if you’re exposed. Like, I grew up in a stupidly red county and heard and saw shit that would make your hair curl. All it did was run my ass out of there to California and give me a heightened sense of when dog whistling is happening.
If you’re capable of critical thinking and it’s not eating into your mental health, finding out what your enemies are saying isn’t bad. It allows for more effective messaging and makes you seem less out of touch.