Comment on Kevin Hart Says He Won’t Host the Oscars Again: Awards Shows ‘Aren’t Comedy-Friendly Environments Anymore’

the_q@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Mr_Blott@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you’re the kind of person that thinks no comedy can be mean, you’re helping to destroy comedy

  Just my opinion. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Don’t hate those that understand centuries upon centuries of schadenfreude is what made us a funny species

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  • the_q@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.

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    • AnonTwo@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      His reading comprehension is fine, the guy said

      If you have to rile the audience to be funny, you’re not funny. <-- A declarative statement with no gray option

      Whereas Mr_Blott is saying that sometimes, it is

      The guys even right that a lot of this isn't even new ideas. Mean or even dark humor has been around for centuries.

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      • Mr_Blott@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks for having comprehension 😅

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      • Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Convenient of you to completely omit and ignore his first sentence, which happened to contain the core message. That’s why you’re both being dinged for (lack of) reading comprehension.

        Just trying to make this as stupid-simple as possible.

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      • my_hat_stinks@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If the only way you can make pizza is by sticking a frozen one in your oven you can’t make pizza; if you choose to use a frozen pizza that doesn’t mean you can’t make pizza.

        You’re conflating two subtly distinct concepts. Only being able to do something one way isn’t the same as choosing to do something one way. If your only option is to rile people up, you’re not funny. That’s what these comedians are complaining about; their one joke is to punch down, which is frowned upon.

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      • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you have to rile the audience to be funny, you’re not funny.

        But there is a “gray option” here. I read this as “you can rile up the audience and be funny, just not if that’s the only thing you do”, in context with the previous point that this sort of humour is overused and loosing its impact.

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    • wintermutehal@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Truly even funnier after watching the video linked

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• Psychodelic@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  [relevant]

  I just saw this posted on lemmy a while back. It’s so good. lol

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  • the_blast_of_us@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For anyone who likes this, his entire show is brilliant and you can buy it for a fairly reasonable price directly from his homepage:

    www.jamesacaster.com/cold-lasagne/

    Honestly one of if not the best Stand-Up routine I’ve seen in the past ten years

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• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Mean comedy and riling people up can be funny.

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  • the_q@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sure off you the listener is also mean spirited.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or they recognize them as what they are, jokes.

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      • the_q@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What constitutes a joke? If I punch you in the face then say, “hey it was just a joke” is it a joke? If the punch hurt you is it because you’re soft?

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    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Did you totally leave out a word or did you misconjugate?

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• GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You think that’s new?

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• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  These people aren’t riling up the audience. They’re riling up people the audience doesn’t like.

  Also, I’m ok with comedy being “mean”, so long as the target deserves it and it’s delivered in a witty way. Too many “edgy” comedians are just recycling the same joke, which runs counter to the idea that comedy is the Subversion of Expectations.

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