Lol, as an European, don’t get too smug. Our leaders, media & billionaires are frothing at the mouth thinking following the US’ path.
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FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hey, 'Murica?
How does all this “winning” feel?
Yours contemptuously,
The civilised world
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Oh it’s worse than that. Once America’s billionaires plunder the US treasury and tank the bond market (so we can’t borrow any more), they’ll make good their escape and then do the same to the rest of the developed world.
They’re richer than any royalty or industrialist robber baron has in history by at least a factor of four, and can afford to buy all the elections and capture all of the governments.
Quarries and data centers as far as the eye can see.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Think of how dumb the average person is, half of them are dumber than that. And they voted this rotten mango into office. We are sick of him and watching our country crumble around him.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The original line is that we would get tired of winning. So that’s what this is. We’re tired of winning so we have opted for losing. Lots of losing.
sludgewife@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
i wanna die thanks for asking
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Maybe try doing something about it?
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Such as?
To fix this we need to organize twelve million Americans. We could seize Washington by force. Occupying Washington with six million supported by the other six would likely be enough. Or we could stage a general strike and support those workers not earning a living.
But we need to create a larger organized revolt than has ever been done before. And we’ll need a manifesto that everyone can agree on.
It turns out that’s actually quite difficult.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Oh, it’s DIFFICULT? My apologies. I didn’t realize you were looking for easy solutions that wouldn’t create any discomfort for any of you.
And you’re absolutely misrepresenting what would be necessary. 20 or so high profile Charlie Kirks and a couple dozen people ready to take down ICE patrols in every neighborhood would get you a great deal of the way there. Broken noses and missing teeth are the proper response to Nazi taking points. On paper, no population in history has had better odds of successfully putting down a fascist takeover of their government- Americans either don’t care or are sinply unwilling to put their comfort at risk.
Malica@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It feels like just desserts
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Honestly, it hurts and we’re tired of it. Send help, or like a sniper or something.
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ll celebrate as much as anyone the day the dipshit is no longer with us, but he didn’t singlehandedly cause this, nor will getting rid of him magically fix everything.
And the fact is, not all Americans are tired of it. There are millions of Americans who are perfectly happy with things the way they are. There are millions more who would be perfectly content if all else were unchanged but we had a slightly less embarrassing commander in chief, as though that’s our only problem. It isn’t. Not by a long shot.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m an American emigrant, living in Germany, and it’s weird: there are so many layers of problems, that I can’t accurately express what it feels like to watch your home country burn itself and anyone it can take with it to the ground from afar. The closest I can come is “shameful,” when people ask, but I worry that comes off as though I just find trump embarrassing.
I absolutely do, but it’s more that I feel deep shame for ever having believed the propaganda I was raised with; every new, horrible thing this president does is a fucking disgrace; and the mask-off nature of the administration reveals other shameful aspects of American culture and history*, which were previously less known to Europeans.
Just cutting off USAID, NOAA, and American participation in the WHO have or will all contribute to preventable deaths of innocent people around the world (there are too many things to consider them all here). We were at one point well-organized, dedicated, and well-connected enough to have a net positive effect on the world (had we chosen to do so, which we continually did not). We had a robust social safety net for some of the population at one point which could have been expanded to cover everyone in the country. By not doing that, we’ve almost certainly forced people who could have been highly skilled doctors, gifted artists, or creative inventors into wage labor, prison, or an early grave.
Because of what?
Racism?
That weird little fantasy about how the details of a person’s phenotype affect their personality or ability? It’s just a malignant, bizarro-world version of astrology! Race isn’t based in genetic science, and even if they try to suggest that there are differences based on race that are transmitted through culture, it quickly leads to the realization that perhaps treating some people as an underclass is not a good thing for society, actually, so they’re clearly not going about it that way.
It’s repeated a lot, but the cruelty really seems to be the point.
That’s a terrible shame.
*it also revealed a level of solidarity shown by people protesting ICE that I was really happily surprised by, to be clear. It’s not all bad, but there are many ways that could have been revealed which would have been infinitely better.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
How’d you escape?
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Firstly, racism is always a thing. Xenophobia is how humans kept infectious diseases at bay for most of human existence. But then we did the agriculture thing and decided to try out larger societies. Throughout history, though societies have always had to contend with half the population hating the other half enough to get violent.
The whole point of post-enlightenment civilizations is to treat everyone equally. But the US’ economy depended on slavery, and we weren’t ready to give rights to women, and those left cracks fit for social wedges.
Secondly, racism is a tool and always has been. The owner class has always resented the working class, and now they can live so far removed from us that they don’t even pretend or develop empathy by sharing the street with us. Heck Thiel wants to make his own Rapture in which everything is automated.
Racism is the hook by which the massive, oligarch-owned, far-right, propaganda machine draws in its viewership before feeding them the MAGA ideology and encouraging them to isolate themselves from all other information sources (and the libs). It turns out in the last century we’ve developed a lot of psychology. It’s just not used as much to heal minds.
But the owner class hates us all. It may hate non-white non-Christians slightly more, but the thing that disgusts them the most about us, by far, is that we are poor. And they’re just as eager to deny us a means to survive as working-class white men would to black men.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He didn’t cause this. But he sure as hell isn’t helping.
There will always be a minority that are content with status quo. Though virtually everyone is not happy with how things are. There is just a disagreement on the solution. Dipshit was elected because he was different, and they thought he would fix the problems that plagues the US. And many still think he is helping, somehow…
CaptainMan251@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Our president said we are going to win, we will say “no more winning sir, we are winning too much we can’t win anymore”
That’s where we are. All this winning is destroying our country.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
“our country”, you’re such a romantic.
CaptainMan251@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
❤️💛💚💙🧡🩵🩷
16mhz@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I think he meant whining, not winning
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yeah, ours have all sucked so far.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
How about you stand the fuck up and fight, you absolute cowards