It’s not a choice between palm oil or butter. You can create a vegan pie easily. Yummie yummie.
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ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 11 hours agoYou’re right, but if we used butter instead, the necessary cows would surely require yet more space.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Isn’t palm oil vegan?
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 4 hours ago
It depends on your definition of veganism. There is no animal product in it, but to use it in the quantities we do requires the destruction of a lot of habitat that certain animals require to survive.
Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
Yeah, people constantly confuse veganism for a diet.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Nope, it contains bits and pieces of orangutans.
Saber_is_dead@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
That doesn’t sound right. But I don’t know enough about orangutans to dispute it.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
Since veganism is mainly about ethicality, i’d guess not.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I had an argument about palm oil with a vegan who said that I was against it because I supported Big Dairy…
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
ethicality
Only when it comes to animals. You can be an almond milk drinking vegan despite the amount of water necessary to make an almond.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 8 hours ago
i think so since it comes from a tree
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
If only vegetable oils existed…
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
You mean like palm oil?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Different use cases.
Fats that are solid ( or at least not kept liquid) are not directly comparable to oils. They fulfill a different function in baked goods. In particular, pie crust with vegetable oil would fail totally. It wouldn’t hold up.
Mind you, if you don’t object to hydrogenated oils, they can do the job. Yay margarine? But you can’t just dump 10 grams of canola into your biscuits and expect the results to look, taste, or feel like a biscuit. You’d get something, but it wouldn’t be the same.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Palm oil doesn’t tase good at all so you can just as well use margarine made from sunflower or canola oil.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Its replacement depends on the product you’re trying to make. Like, they could not remove the cocoa butter from chocolate, for example.
Which reminds me, someone gave me a bunch of chocolate bars with a large “rainforest alliance” logo on it that had palm oil as the second ingredient. They’re inedible.