Comment on French retailer mocks €1039 Steam Machine with “Stim Machine” RX 9060 XT PC for €999
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 5 days agoThe average user doesn’t want to install an OS though, that’s the whole point of selling it as a complete, pre built package.
Sure, this is a little more powerful than the steam machine, but it lacks all of the actual selling points of the steam machine.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
What is the selling point of a steam machine.
“Do you want to overpay for obsolete hardware that can barely run most modern games? Are you really stupid and cannot use a USB drive to make a very simple software installation that already has tons of step by step instructions freely available online?”
placebo@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
It’s an average gaming PC. Tune down your arrogance a little.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
It’s trash.
Outdated before anyone even gets their hands on it.
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
Stop being a drama queen, I have worse hardware than a steam machine and can play most modern games at 60fps 1080p on medium settings, or high with fsr. The vast majority of people aren’t targeting 240fps 4k on Ultra.
GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
And then there’s those of us who don’t play a ton of modern games - For a ton of older games you don’t need high end hardware.
grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Right, but in that case you wouldn’t waste a thousand bucks on a Steam machine anyway. You’d get a decent budget CPU and GPU, very likely secondhand, and call it a day for like half that price at most.
It’s very expensive to have a “AAA ready” machine these days but an “indie and retro machine” can be pretty affordable if you’re able to get secondhand parts at a decent price. Like you can get a used 3060 8GB for a little over $200 on eBay here and that’ll easily handle pretty much any indie under the sun.
87Six@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
You are seeing it as a PC. It’s not. You have to see it for what it actually is: a console. You compare this to other consoles, not to a PC.
It’s really fucking sad that in making this thing repairable, and relatively modifiable, people now expect everything else a PC has and compare it to a PC unjustly.
It’s not a prebuilt either. If it were, it would have a sticker on the CPU IHS, the power cable wouldn’t be plugged in internally, and the PSU would catch on fire on the 69th boot.
But let’s see anyway:
But what exactly are the points in buying a PS5, for example?
All just so your games run a little better?
If you don’t like it don’t buy it.
If you have a PC you’re not the target audience in the first place.
Dremor@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Valve explicitly said it is to be considered as a PC, focussed on playing game, not a console. Thus a PC price point, not sold at loose.
Their word, not mine.
87Six@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
what they said doesn’t change what the thing is
Them comparing it to a PC is an endorsement and a marketing tactic to promote the usual good aspects of a PC of their new hardware
You can’t tell me you actually believe that thing to be more a PC than a console when it comes to the use case…