Comment on French retailer mocks €1039 Steam Machine with “Stim Machine” RX 9060 XT PC for €999

• Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The average user doesn’t want to install an OS though, that’s the whole point of selling it as a complete, pre built package.
  Sure, this is a little more powerful than the steam machine, but it lacks all of the actual selling points of the steam machine.

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  • rafoix@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What is the selling point of a steam machine.

    “Do you want to overpay for obsolete hardware that can barely run most modern games? Are you really stupid and cannot use a USB drive to make a very simple software installation that already has tons of step by step instructions freely available online?”

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    • placebo@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s an average gaming PC. Tune down your arrogance a little.

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      • rafoix@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s trash.

        Outdated before anyone even gets their hands on it.

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    • Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Stop being a drama queen, I have worse hardware than a steam machine and can play most modern games at 60fps 1080p on medium settings, or high with fsr. The vast majority of people aren’t targeting 240fps 4k on Ultra.

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      • GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And then there’s those of us who don’t play a ton of modern games - For a ton of older games you don’t need high end hardware.

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    • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You are seeing it as a PC. It’s not. You have to see it for what it actually is: a console. You compare this to other consoles, not to a PC.

      It’s really fucking sad that in making this thing repairable, and relatively modifiable, people now expect everything else a PC has and compare it to a PC unjustly.

      It’s not a prebuilt either. If it were, it would have a sticker on the CPU IHS, the power cable wouldn’t be plugged in internally, and the PSU would catch on fire on the 69th boot.

      But let’s see anyway:

      • repairability
      • freedom of modification
      • "lifetime" support in the form of security updates, if I remember right; that older steam console still receives updates like 9 years later
      • shared library of games, as opposed to a locked down ecosystem like the PS5 or Xbox S
      • when it dies you’ve got yourself a linux server because again, it’s not locked down
      • all parts are replaceable, clearly labeled
      • you can easily upgrade RAM and storage, and they aren’t that weird rare form factor some prebuilts use, it’s just an LPDDR stick I think
      • it’s pretty damn quiet
      • it’s tiny as hell; in a living room this really matters
      • Valve support is known to be top notch
      • no online pay subscription
      • an open source arch-based OS that you can know for a fact is not spying on you?

      But what exactly are the points in buying a PS5, for example?

      • having to pay to play online?
      • having a dead box after it becomes unsupported?
      • getting a shit controller that breaks if your little brother breaths on it wrong and that you can’t fix because it’s a POS?
      • being locked into an ecosystem forever?
      • have 0 privacy and need to agree to 10 billion TOS’s every time you do anything? That POS definitely records ALL the data it can about you. I think Steam does too but I think the level of scumminess is not the same.

      All just so your games run a little better?

      If you don’t like it don’t buy it.

      If you have a PC you’re not the target audience in the first place.

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      • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Valve explicitly said it is to be considered as a PC, focussed on playing game, not a console. Thus a PC price point, not sold at loose.

        Their word, not mine.

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