Comment on French retailer mocks €1039 Steam Machine with “Stim Machine” RX 9060 XT PC for €999

• Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You can buy it prebuilt.

  Still have to install SteamOS, but that a painless process, I’ve done it multiple timed. You boot the iso, double clic on an icon, accept the prompt that tells you everything on the disk will be erased, and boom, you got the OS installed.

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  • Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The average user doesn’t want to install an OS though, that’s the whole point of selling it as a complete, pre built package.
    Sure, this is a little more powerful than the steam machine, but it lacks all of the actual selling points of the steam machine.

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    • rafoix@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What is the selling point of a steam machine.

      “Do you want to overpay for obsolete hardware that can barely run most modern games? Are you really stupid and cannot use a USB drive to make a very simple software installation that already has tons of step by step instructions freely available online?”

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      • placebo@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s an average gaming PC. Tune down your arrogance a little.

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      • Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Stop being a drama queen, I have worse hardware than a steam machine and can play most modern games at 60fps 1080p on medium settings, or high with fsr. The vast majority of people aren’t targeting 240fps 4k on Ultra.

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      • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You are seeing it as a PC. It’s not. You have to see it for what it actually is: a console. You compare this to other consoles, not to a PC.

        It’s really fucking sad that in making this thing repairable, and relatively modifiable, people now expect everything else a PC has and compare it to a PC unjustly.

        It’s not a prebuilt either. If it were, it would have a sticker on the CPU IHS, the power cable wouldn’t be plugged in internally, and the PSU would catch on fire on the 69th boot.

        But let’s see anyway:

        • repairability
        • freedom of modification
        • "lifetime" support in the form of security updates, if I remember right; that older steam console still receives updates like 9 years later
        • shared library of games, as opposed to a locked down ecosystem like the PS5 or Xbox S
        • when it dies you’ve got yourself a linux server because again, it’s not locked down
        • all parts are replaceable, clearly labeled
        • you can easily upgrade RAM and storage, and they aren’t that weird rare form factor some prebuilts use, it’s just an LPDDR stick I think
        • it’s pretty damn quiet
        • it’s tiny as hell; in a living room this really matters
        • Valve support is known to be top notch
        • no online pay subscription
        • an open source arch-based OS that you can know for a fact is not spying on you?

        But what exactly are the points in buying a PS5, for example?

        • having to pay to play online?
        • having a dead box after it becomes unsupported?
        • getting a shit controller that breaks if your little brother breaths on it wrong and that you can’t fix because it’s a POS?
        • being locked into an ecosystem forever?
        • have 0 privacy and need to agree to 10 billion TOS’s every time you do anything? That POS definitely records ALL the data it can about you. I think Steam does too but I think the level of scumminess is not the same.

        All just so your games run a little better?

        If you don’t like it don’t buy it.

        If you have a PC you’re not the target audience in the first place.

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• Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Also good luck with firmware updates, since most of them are extremely inconvenient to install with Linux, and also few vendors actually update their firmware any more than they need to.

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