Women are people.
Sex is a commodity.
People can sell commodities.
Comment on Little treat
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Women are things, so fun, hahaha
zarathustrad@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
redsand@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Oh fuck. This is true but we cannot let commodities market makers find out.
CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Yes. Why can’t some people accept that?
Abyssian@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This doesn’t seem to be implied anywhere in the post… but technically, yes. Women are made of stuff and so are things.
It’s actually more terrifying than that. Women are massive conglomerations of living blobs of stuff that are somehow also singularly alive and one stuff thats tons of different little stuffs. Yr mom is the most massive.
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
How did you arrive at the conclusion that the woman was the butt of the joke?
velma@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Women with daddy issues are funny, right?
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Perhaps the guy supposedly renting the supposed prostitute is such a terrible father - as exhibited by his behaviour here, for example - that he is disowned by his family; thus he has no other Father’s Day presents from the kids that don’t speak to him anymore? That’s why he’s buying his own present - to feel the companionship of another human and try to reconnect with humanity for a brief moment.
Or he just loves fucking hookers.
I don’t really think about memes too much - but I always check what community and what instance I’m in before contributing to the conversation.
velma@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I wasn’t making a moral judgment with my comment, just observing the punch line.
Inflo@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Is that the joke? I read it as an absurd joke that a father gets an unconventional ‘treat’, it plays the same for me if it was a mother getting one
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Lemmy is male dominated and sometimes progressive on these issues, but mostly it’s a bunch of raging incels who want to “free the nipple” so they can stare at the nipple all day long
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
This photo wasn’t even taken with that woman’s consent and nobody here gives a shit
They didn’t even thought about that, as they don’t see her as a person, but as a thing. We don’t ask consent to things.
CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
There are billions of photos and videos of people on the internet with people who didn’t consent to have their pictures taken. People take pictures and/or videos of people who aren’t dressing in the societal norm all the time. Especially since she’s in one of the most public spaces out there.
I’m not trying to say that it’s right that someone took a picture of her without her consent and posted it to the internet, but she was already in public where anyone and everyone is allowed to look, and this happens with all sorts of people wearing all sorts of things. Her profession is her body, and that is something she has done to herself. If you are wearing clothing that is very well known and considered sexual in a place where sexual activity is unusual, it is unreasonable to not expect this kind of attention.
Why that kind of clothing is sexual is a completely different conversation that is only tangentially related to this conversation and to attempt to pry at that here and know would be to degrade the entire meaning of this debate.
velma@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
that is something she has done to herself.
You actually don’t know that, but ok.
CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Where the fuck is “free the nipple” coming in? Yeah, guys are horny and do see nipples sexually. Why? That’s because our nipples generally look differently and thus it is easier to differentiate them from a woman’s nipple that for whatever reason (not important at the moment) has been labeled as sexual and taboo.
Nudist societies exist and are great examples of how when things like nipples become nothing more than just another part of the body, especially with societal undertones having changed because those cannot be ignored and have been hard-wired into our brains for many decades. But when people get over the undertones, it really does become just another part of the body.
Calling men pathetic for defending our pride and constitution is frankly pathetic in itself, and it’s comments that target a wide group of people and degrade them for something they largely cannot control and most of us don’t even understand the sexuality related to things like that, it’s like blaming a snake for not knowing how to walk after you gave it legs.
Yeah, a guy’s feminism probably won’t be as “fierce” for lack of a better word because we do not directly feel and often not even see the issues that women tend to be facing. But there are also multiple definitions that people have established for feminism, and they are very different. One is practically just justice. The idea that men and women should be effectively equal, as in a society that no longer requires extreme strength to push a plough, there is no reason at all why there should be a gender inequality. After all, as we continue to learn more about humanity’s early past, we learn that the hunters and gatherers each were about 50/50 men and women. Humanity is more than capable of equality.
But if in fighting for women’s power you actively demote and push men down to stand above them, you will find resistance. I stand to be equal. I stand to see a future where it doesn’t matter what gender the president is. I don’t stand for a future where women choke men down for an “equality” that is really just spiteful revenge for the past. Because the future is not the past. And people will not stand for that. But I also don’t stand for things to continue to be male-only just because they have been.
I will not continue to debate if you attempt to degrade my argument like a “full-blown gorilla in an enclosure having a fit of rage hate” because that is both not what I am doing and it is not productive.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Sorry I tried but I couldn’t. Read all that, but I did just want to say. There is a large coop of the free the nip by incels.
Its not a new thing. False flag feminism is a decently well known problem.
CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Alright fair I did sort of write an essay. In broad summary, I’m arguing that for the most part it’s not individual men to blame for that but rather the fact that society for centuries has been very strict in that sense. In nudist societies it is shown that people eventually do stop caring, showing that the problem is not men. I’m arguing that men shouldn’t really be blamed for a social undertone even they don’t fully understand being the reason why “staring at a nipple all day” isn’t mostly a problem because of society.
Also there are two types of feminism I’ve seen people talk of. One type is practical equality, and the other actively pushes men down in attempt to rise up. The second kind of feminism is likely to blame for a large percentage of men not involving themselves in feminism because arguments like these make it look like feminism is about painting men in a negative light. And of course anyone would resist something that wants to shut you down because of something you can’t control
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I thought the woman was the father
CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Legitimately where did you get that from? She is doing a job that she chose, for whatever reason to do.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Prostitution is one of those jobs that you don’t always choose…
Frequently it is a choice, a poor one. But a choice none the less. But not always.
Tho there are the few who do actually choose it because they just genuinely love having sex with randoms.
People come in all types.
CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Yeah I mostly agree with you. But of course you could instead choose to steal things for money and in my book as long as you’re stealing from billionaires I don’t really care. I mean yeah it’s a dangerous choice, but it’s another one.
hoch@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Money can be exchanged for goods and services
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
We live in a society
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
A CAPITALIST society.