It’s fucking crazy how well the “shocked dog”bullshit has stuck.
I dunno, I agree with a lot of things he says but I watched that video with the dog and it looks pretty clear to me that he did have a shock collar on the dog.
He may not have actually pressed it on screen, but he moved his hand to it and the dog knew exactly what that meant and you could see it in the reaction.
The fact he seemingly wants to force an animal to sit in the corner like an ornament for his stream in the first place is also particularly problematic.
Anything’s possible when you make shit up
So he uses a training collar to train his dog to behave while he’s busy? The horror.
That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
- the Narcissist Prayer, written by Dayna Craig
Welcome to step 3, ye flying monkeys.
I don’t give a fuck about whoever this chud is, but training collars are a thing and that’s how you use em, to correct behavior. Also because it seems to piss all y’all off, free Palestine.
You could have stopped after the first line
It’s disappointing how well the “question my personal behavior, question the cause” narrative has taken root. Piker is human. He can have some great points, good intentions, and the charisma to become a voice in the moment. It doesn’t make him inviolable. He has his flaws, shortcomings, and blindspots like all of us. He treats his dog like property and a set piece. Want to make him a better candidate for leadership of the cause? Demand that he do better and remind him that just because he’s on the right track most of the time he’s not above reproach. If you just want a leftist version of Trump whose shortcomings we ignore because they get done what we want done; fuck you.
His dog lives a better life than most humans do and is well loved and taken care of. Source: Every single person who knows her in real life and interacts with them. Hell you can see it from their interactions on stream but you wouldn’t know that since you don’t watch clearly.
His dog lives a better life than most humans do and is well loved and taken care of.
The experience of life, for humans and animals, is more than just being “taken care of”. Your measure of “love” still treats a dog like an object and measures the quality of the human-canine relationship in terms of hierarchy; I give you X, therefore I expect you to give me Y. Gross, both of you.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. Kaya has a great life and is not treated like an object simply because her bed is on stream. News flash if your dog likes you they will actually choose to be around you even when you are just doing boring stuff and sitting at a desk and especially when they understand their routines and know they have a dog walk at a specific time each day and have already done other enrichment activities. Hasan/Kaya’s schedule isn’t unknown if you watched a few streams you would know it, but again you clearly don’t watch. They can simply relax because they know they have times of the day they will get to run around and get their energy out. Kaya is well trained too, which clearly shows a bond between Hasan and her and its extremely common to use treats during training.
The dog is fine, get a job
Nah. I refuse to buy into the system. Eat shit and die, capitalist.
You speak like you have the luxury. This was years ago and the collapse of your country is imminent. Do you really want to start burning a leader at the stake with some flaws in favor of a gang of criminals? This is precisely why you’re in this predicament. Look around you. Do better yourself. You have little choice but compromise at the moment. Burn him at the stake later when you’re not actively dying as a country. So goddamn unbelievable and insufferable.
I do have the luxury. If we’re doing this we’re all in, and while I’ll take any ally I can get, I’m going to continue to fight for the rights of non-human life until my last breath and not just seek to replace a right-wing populist with a left-wing one just because he’s on my team. If you’re willing to compromise your personal morality because your favorite dude has compromised theirs instead of saying “hey, I’m with you 90% of the time but here’s where your slipping; do better”; shit.
Nah, this is the same shit y’all did last time with Harris. You wouldn’t vote for a genocide apologist, so you’d rather vote for a pedophile, genocide accomplice and sociopath. Incredibly myopic.
The tactic of “They go low, we go high!” is suicidal.
We had to drop demands for stronger secularism, both to court moderate christians into the left and in the hopes of an actual leftist Obama appearing. All it ended up with is that any time christian fundamentalists won more and more power, the loudest answer was “they’re not real christians, real christians don’t force anything onto other people, instead they’re ought to love their atheist neighbors, their Muslim neighbors…”.
Now we are ought to “kill our idols”, who sometimes are smaller creators (cough cough cancel culture), sometimes bigger ones, and we were ought to show our moral superiority to Asmongold (or whatever grifter is the hottest currently) by backstabbing them after the slightest rumors. Humans are social animals, not “individualist thinkers” that are able to come to conclusions on their own.
We are rushing into a gunfight with no guns, not even knives, but nothing besides a smug feeling of moral superiority. We as well next should go back to the forest, or at least live on a “self-sustaining farm”.
It’s not suicidal, it’s self-awareness that we are facing an enemy that is more than willing and is currently eradicating us and will not stop doing so until we respond with the same force. Purity tests for leadership result in never finding a candidate because everyone is human, everyone has shortcomings; you take the best ally you can get. But you don’t have to compromise or accept their flaws as ongoing or excuse them from working on them during the process. Judge people’s quality of character on how they respond to criticism of their previous actions and whether they reflect on their behavior, acknowledge it might have been a poor choice, and amend their way, don’t just double down and deflect and defend because you like them most of the time. If a up-and-coming leader can be forgiven transgressions by their supporters when they’re a nobody they’re building a base that will forgive their worse transgressions later when they’re somebody and have the power. Demand that your leaders forever remain accountable to the critique of the people they claim to represent or you’re just propping up a left-wing populist as a reaction to the right.
Do not believe your own eyes www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cL__lbQL6g
My eyes are telling me this is bullshit because they work, get yours checked
Must be a walkie talkie randomly placed on his streaming setup, and the dog reacted like it got shocked, and the dog just likes being in one spot for 10 hours a day and does the droopy ears like it was punished. Every sign points to it but you have to consider, hasan said he didn’t do it.
If you look at it frame-by-frame, you can see the dog is kicking the bed. I had dogs accidentally kicking the stair, they also reacted like that.
Now please tell me about how other fascist misinformation campaigns are right too! Tell me that gamergate wasn’t an astroturfed movement by Stormfront and Steve Bannon to make white people flinch at minorities, but a real consumer revolt! Tell me that the Holocaust never happened and that the Jews drank the blood of German aryan children and gave predatory loans to the average German citizen to push them into “debt slavery”!
The dog is out of “it’s spot” for 90% of steam.
But you have to consider. Some loser said it was a shock collar. Because it was red.
They have vibration & audio alert training collars for dogs, using mechanically identical remotes, and this has been mentioned repeatedly in every single discussion of these accusations that I’ve encountered so far. Try harder halfwit
My friend’s dog was traumatised because his wife opened a moisturiser tube too loudly. Watch any dog for any extended period of time and then armchair diagnose its trauma.
It’s possible the dog got startled by him moving his arm. I have never seen a dog get startled and then dejectedly walk over to It’s sleeping spot, and I’ve been around dogs my entire life and that is EXACTLY how a dog who has just been punished reacts. The dog yelps right as he moves his hand and he has a remote that looks identical to a shock collar remote. It is possible there are explanations for all that, it just seems incredibly unlikely to me.
binux@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Explain this then pal… bet you can’t
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athatet@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
This is an excellent point that I had not previously considered.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Responsible dog owners remember to switch off their tesla coils.