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shiftymccool@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
The Nazis didn’t invent those symbols, they appropriated them. It’s ridiculous that a group of assholes can erase centuries of history by misusing symbols
elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
BladeFederation@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
This is debatable. But when you’re using them all together though…
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Culture is always evolving. Some words and symbols have had different meaning in the past than they do now. With context it can be fine to use them without association with the stronger cultural associations. If I see a swastika on a Buddhist temple, I’m not going to assume the Buddhists are Nazis. But if I see a symbol or word without context I’m going to assume the strongest association to that symbol in my culture. Just how culture works.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So in the case of the emails, where there is plenty of context, it’s not an issue. Right?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
“Slavic adventure” doesn’t give enough context to consider it not to be a white power kind of thing.
If they were runes within the game it’s fine since you’d know from playing the game it isn’t about Nazi type shit. But the subject line of an email that just says “slavic adventure” followed by the SS symbols isn’t really enough.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Shut up and hate Nazis with us. Or are you a Nazi too?
Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
i mean a word can be normal in the past for example and then turned racist,etc and vice versa.
for example “queer” was a Lgbtq Slur but it was (mostly) turned normal.captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
True, but unfortunately it’s the case
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The nazis (in particular their graphic designer Walter Heck) did literally invent the sigrune/doppelrune, it doesn’t have roots in history and there is no excuse for them to have sent it.
lath@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He didn’t invent shit. He copied a rune and appropriated it diagonally. S, N, Z whatever, it’s the same damn thing. Sowilo.
Ppl keep praising his ass here like he wrote the bible or some shit when all he did was take what was already there and twisted it.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have really bad news if you think this wasn’t what happened when they wrote the bible…
lath@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If you’re agreeing he didn’t invent shit, I’d recommend amending your comment saying that he did. No need to add legitimacy where there isn’t any. No pressure though.
As for gog, the deed is done and out in the world. Whatever they do from here on out, it will be with this burden attached.
PineRune@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The Elder Futhark predates Nazi Germany by well over 1,000 years. Wikipedia says it was used between the 2nd to 8th centuries.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And the skull and crossbones has been used since the 1700s - and yet people happily run around sporting the Jolly Roger, while someone openly displaying the Totenkopf is pretty much undeniably a nazi.
Jiggle_Physics@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
Graham knew what it was. He’s a murderous psycho, by his own admission. This aw shucks I didn’t realize this was a nazi symbol shit, is just that, shit. He joined the military because he wanted to kill humans. He went on back to back tours until they said no. He then became a MERC so he could get around that and keep killing people.
PineRune@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m not disagreeing with that, but to say the Nazi shite invented runes is wrong. I thought it was pretty well known that the Nazis appropriated many of their symbols from historical findings.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
2nd to 8th centuries… so it’s been out of fashion for over a thousand years, before a certain group decided to ‘popularize’ it again. Hmmmm….
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They’re used because you’re defending the Nazis!
PineRune@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Please explain how knowing about the Elder Futhark is defending Nazis?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
umm…
Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s a different symbol?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Right, brainfart, it’s about the SS.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Wrong page?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
In my mind, yes.