It’s just terminally online redditors bringing their anti-Epic circlejerk here. There’s nothing wrong with collecting free games from the EGS.
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otp@sh.itjust.works 6 months agoI don’t get it. What’s wrong with a free game from Epic?
HKayn@dormi.zone 6 months ago
Deceptichum@kbin.social 6 months ago
How dare people continue to boycott shitty companies.
HKayn@dormi.zone 6 months ago
Feel free to boycott it. Just don’t go around telling others which store they should be buying from like you did at r/pcgaming.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Literally nobody in this thread told you that you couldn’t. You’re not a fucking victim here.
If people online telling you that you’re wrong influences you so much, I’d say that’s a personal problem.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Feel free to boycott it. Just don’t go around telling others which store they should be buying from like you did at r/pcgaming.
“Why can’t you just boycott silently?!”
blueson@feddit.nu 6 months ago
Issue comes up when people start praising Valve as some godline entity in comparison.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 5 months ago
In comparison they are.
echo64@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I really don’t know what to say about the modern pcgamer, at least the terminally online one like this.
I don’t want to being whataboutism into this, but you likely support many companies that do truly terrible things every day, but this one is a bridge too far? This one? It’s wild.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 6 months ago
This is a very easy one.
I can’t exactly boycott a food company when 99% of what I can find is probably from them under a different subsidiary.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 6 months ago
Ah , well the Epic part no doubt.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
There really isn’t.
Some of us just have issues with Epic Games. Some others have issues with Valve.
No private company is really “good.”
But the argument with Epic is things like:
They brought “exclusives” to PC gaming for the first time. Previously, a PC game was a PC game, and it didn’t matter what storefront you bought it from, because it was available at all storefronts. Epic chose to pay companies to restrict their titles just to Epic, in an attempt to move the market towards them.
In a similar vein, trying to fight Valve’s dominance, they started giving away free games. They have been firing people left and right because their financials are in the toilet, and yet they’re still pissing away money on free games and exclusives to their store.
People who care about access to music and paying artists hate them because they have effectively put a death warrant on Bandcamp, buying them for two years, doing nothing with the product, and then selling it to Hedge Fund fuckies who already shitcanned half the staff and the site is officially on life support. They basically killed the last place you could buy music and make sure all the proceeds went to the artist and not a middle man (Bandcamp Fridays).
During all of this, they refused to spend any money on actually improving their fucking game store. Things that have been staples of Steam for a decade now are still on a waiting list of features to be added. The User Experience for Epic Games Store is just bad, bad, bad, bad. There’s no excuse for it, especially when they chose to piss money away on exclusives and free games instead of paying people to produce a better product than Valve has. They refused to even try to release a better product, believing they could buy their way to dominance.
Do you really want to support a company that doesn’t give a flying fuck about your user experience as a customer and has such bad business plans that they’re letting go tons of staff? It’s bad enough that they had a bad business plan, but it also seems like they’re not very good to their employees, either. Compared to Valve’s “flat” management where there are no managers, or where Newell famously paid the writer for Portal to “be sick” for two years while he had a serious disease. “Your job here at Valve is to get better.” This was before he wrote Portal, no less.
One company clearly cares about the user experience that their users experience, and one clearly cares about using every tool at their disposal to be the top of the market, everything from paying for exclusives and free games to suing in court to try to carve out a niche for yourself where you don’t have to pay vendor fees.
cottonmon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
An important detail regarding exclusivity. What made a ton of people pissed off (and justifiably so, in my opinion) is that they bought exclusivity for games that were kickstarted which resulted in the option for Steam keys being removed for these games.
Squid@leminal.space 6 months ago
Heard this had even killed projects
brawleryukon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Please stop with this. Valve and GOG had both done third-party exclusives before EGS was even a thing. Epic absolutely in no way "brought [them] to PC gaming for the first time.
Yes, they did make them a pillar in their strategy to try to enter a marketplace that was dominated by an 800-pound gorilla - which is a perfectly legitimate approach to take - which neither of the other two did, but they 100% categorically did NOT bring the practice to PC first.
Voyajer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Which games did valve pay to be exclusive to steam?
brawleryukon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Darwinia.
And before you even go there, yes, it was a long time ago, no, they haven’t really done it since then. But the discussion here is about whether or not Epic did it first, which they did not. By about a decade and a half.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 6 months ago
Show one Valve exclusive.
brawleryukon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
forums.introversion.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=40203
What do I win?
rambaroo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
For real, Steam literally took off because they made HL2 exclusive to it. It doesn’t matter that it’s a first party game, the effect and intent was identical. They could’ve made it generally available but chose not to. They forced people to use their proprietary product to install a game.
It’s crazy how many people shill for valve on Reddit and lemmy when they’ve already done most of the shit Epic gets accused of.
otp@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I don’t think getting freebies from them counts as supporting them
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
You have to create an account to get them.
If you don’t think data harvesting to sell the data isn’t part of that equation, you’re just a little bit naive.
otp@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Of course it’s part of the equation.
It’s part of the equation on Steam and GOG, too.
So unless you bought a physical copy of this game and kept it off the internet (not sure if anyone is collecting any data through FO3 itself), or got it gifted to you through GOG and you don’t have an account there, you’re in the same boat. Except you paid for the game with money in addition to data.
ono@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I do. Some examples off the top of my head:
There are probably other ways in which it supports them. Those are just the first ones to come to mind.
otp@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Ok, but they give free games so it’s cool. They’ll surely make a lot of money off of my “never pays us” behavioural data
Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I was going to say. This is probably the opposite. Unfortunately once epic goes down. Because of their awful launcher you won’t actually be able to use it
otp@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
But it’s not a sale. It’s a game, and it’s provided for free, and as of right now there is no end date where your access to the game will expire. No money leaves your wallet.
I still don’t understand.
Is this some sort of coping mechanism by people who paid for the game 10 years ago?
… because unless you bought it from GOG over Steam (which is my preferred place to buy digital games, not Epic), you’re in the same boat: Haven’t bought a game, you’ve bought a license. Except with Epic, it’s $0.00 today.