The thing is it kinda isn’t. The ozone layer still needs about 20 years to get back to 1960 levels and the number of problematic states for this increasing again
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its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks agoIt’s kinda our last big environmental win.
DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
MonkRome@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
iirc ~1/4 of the worlds energy production is renewable. More than 90% of all new electricity capacity worldwide came from renewable sources in 2024. Doomers want you to believe it can’t happen again while we are in the very decade that is likely to change the world. Public policy doesn’t even matter at this point, renewable energy is cheaper, so nearly all new investments are in renewables.
Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Energy sources are only part of the issue (albeit a major one) and enormous damage has already been done to a disastrous point, calling people “doomers” with an intent to ridicule their angst, worries and experiences is akin to climate change denial.
Also, public policy is constantly used in an expensive way if that it suits the ruling classes, markets are not some neutral forces in a vacuum.
MonkRome@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m concerned about climate change. But if you ask most people how much progress we’ve made they would say “barely any”. That belief that we can’t do it, is the main thing aside from public policy slowing us down. When people think things are hopeless, they often don’t see the point in fighting or changing their behavior. I also think most people don’t realize that renewable energy adoption has accelerated so quickly the last few years. Every year we have had massive growth over last year in adoption.
Jako302@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
That’s only the case because it was the cheapest option available for a while. Oil execs noticed the trend and got cold feet, now a lot of governments are cutting back subsidies for renewables and actively hinder new projects being build. Here in germany we have investors abandoning half build solar parks cause they aren’t profitable anymore. At the same time we allow oil companies to bid for gigantic offshore projects just so they can say that they have no interest in actually building it after they won.
With the ozon hole you could see the world working together to fix it despite it beeing somewhat less profitable. With renewables you can see governments actively working against the movement despite it being the best in terms of environment and profits combined.
MonkRome@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Solar is easily the cheapest energy and its getting cheaper every year. Repairing a coal power plant is not as attractive as a much cheaper to run biofuel plant. Etc.
Here in germany we have investors abandoning half build solar parks cause they aren’t profitable anymore.
Without knowing the specifics, I doubt profitability was the issue. Once a solar panel is installed it is pure profit with minimal maintenance. Companies get in trouble when they commit way more to a project than they can raise in investments. It seems more likely that is what happened.
Lastly your looking at a few countries that are pushing back with what amounts to theater (Germany is 56% renewable energy). Meanwhile the largest producer of energy in the world, China, is staying committed to converting to renewables and s also 56% of the way there.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
We could stop producing any co2 today and the planet would continue warming for 100 years, it’s a pretty tough problem we have on our hands.
MonkRome@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sure but the problem would be 100 times worse if fossil fuel adoption doest decline. Its good news that we seem to be on the way to shifting our behavior.
Midnitte@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Tbf, its not even yet a win technically.
TCO is expected to return to 1980 values around 2066 in the Antarctic, around 2045 in the Arctic, and around 2040 for the near-global average (60°N-60°S). - Source
jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
So is that good news, that we’re moving in the right direction?
Though the very next sentence from that linked source says
The assessment of the depletion of TCO in regions around the globe from 1980-1996 remains essentially unchanged since the 2018 Assessment.
Midnitte@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
2018 to 2022 didnt see much change (and given how far until its fully returned to normal, I think you can see qhy - it takes a long time to fully heal), but we’re certainly pretty far into success compared to where we were.
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Yeah, last. Not latest, last.
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
There’s been some conservation wins that I know of. Okaloosa Darter fish came off of endangered status, and eventually off of threatened The Red Cockaded Woodpecker was elevated from endangered to threatened a few years ago.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 3 weeks ago
Now your just making shit up.
Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 weeks ago
Winner of the “most penis euphemisms in one name” award.
blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Penis McPeniswoodchuck
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/…/id
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
American Bison, too. The repopulation of American bison (often called buffalo) is one of the most successful repopulation efforts in history. The reason you’re able to order buffalo burgers at your local hipster burger joint is because American bison is no longer endangered. The population has come from less than 1000 total bison (all privately owned by a handful of conservationists) to over 400k today.
its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I had a Bison meatloaf once that was so good. It’s so much lighter than beef. It was like eating a meat cloud.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I saw on Ted Turner’s wiki page that he helped with that.
ruuster13@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
The irony of all ironies is how similar the words “conservation” and “conservative” are.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
That’s because the root of both is to converse. To keep things the way they are.
Politics gets in the way of that reality since they don’t actively want to keep it the same, they actually want to regress back to previous times they can exploit personally.
Nangijala@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
I can add to that: the cormorant population in my country, Denmark, used to be endangered and now they are fucking everywhere. We also used to almost have the stork go extinct. For many years we had like 6 breeding pairs left. Now we have 26!
And we brought back beavers. Our otter population is growing too and we have wolves now, which sadly, is a controversial subject. A lot of lobbyist in the farming community (farmers are basically the closest we get to the marfia here) are trying to convince the population that wolves don’t belong in Denmark and should be eradicated. People fall for it because they are scared for their kids. Meanwhile I’m over here like: 🫠 you guys are aware that the only reason they’ve started coming closer to cities is because some of you retarded fucks are feeding them and also, farmers are killing our nature so there’s less food for wildlife in the countryside. That’s why wolves are moving closer to cities.
I still have great hopes for our wolf population. Our newly elected government is planning on cracking down hard on farming after 40 years of these assholes fuckign around and destroying my country with their poisons and pigshit and penicillin abuses etc etc. Finally, someone is gonna hold these psychos accountable. I am very excited for our wildlife because we still have time to save it. But if we don’t do something now, I fear that within the next 10 to 20 years, our natural ecosystems will be erased. It is insane to have grown up in a time where we used to have a much healthier nature and gradually I have seen species disappear completely. Species that used to be everywhere.
But there are still many passionate people who are fighting to preserve and save nature and they are having way more wins in recent years than they have had for decades. So yay!
starlinguk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
None of that is worldwide.