The US is Sabotaging healthcare science long-term with itâs bullshit. We would be better off if it turned into a new Athlantic.
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protist@retrofed.com â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
I gotta admit I hate the framing of this as âCuba vs the US.â Cuba coming up with a treatment is commendable. The US coming up with many treatments is commendable. This is fucking medical science, not politics.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
The US coming up with anything is not commendable because we literally always overcharge wildly for life saving treatments and let anyone who canât afford them die
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Idk, the rest of the world generally gets them at a reasonable pricing
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
And that redeems the US how? If you do something evil, a harmful act with purely selfish motives, it doesnât matter how many people learn from you and use that knowledge to do good, what you did remains evil.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Who talked about redeeming the US? Iâm just happy I get my healthcare at reasonable rates.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Jonas Salk showed itâs possible
Bloomcole@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
The US and their horrible system have worked against science on many occasions.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
The US embargo against Cuba is political as well.
The US politicians turning a blind eye on the lives destroyed by for-profit healthcare are political as well.
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Donât forget how the amount of doctors is restricted by law by Congress, determined by Congress.
liuther9@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
It is all politics. Your fucking life is going to be even more political soon meaning miserable cause of some policies. I hate it when people are like âduh I am not into politicsâ.
Jarmund@lemmygrad.ml â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
The narratives and optics molds reality just as material conditions molds the think-being of a person.
In the age of social media warfare this is a tactic that governments from capitalist and AES use to change the collective minds of the masses, gain their favor. China has done it the boring way, Cuba needs to act quickly when cornered by this moribund rabid dog known as the US government.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Everything is politics. Especially when everything you try to do is hampered by stupid and/or abusive politics, such as the embargo.
Youâre right that coming up with the drug is in itself commendable, but youâre wrong in implying that coming up with it while under the embargo doesnât make it even MORE impressive.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
They have a point though. Yes the embargo makes it more impressive, but also science is the best font of internationalism in the modern world. When the US and USSR were on the verge of killing everyone, our scientists were collaborating. Together we defeated polio, and along with everyone else we killed smallpox.
Science extends beyond borders even when governments try to force it not to. Framing it within national conflicts can take from the beauty and power of its refusal to submit to borders, nationalities, and anything else like that.
The nation of Cuba must be commended for their support of medical science even in the most adverse conditions. But the Cubans and Argentinians who did this did it as part of the internationalist scientific community, and that community is something we as a species should be supporting and cherishing.