Comment on The Matrix

• idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Damn, they accused you of not paying attention and then you brought out the deep lore

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• lime@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  i’ve seen animatrix but it’s also, like, in the original

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  • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Morpheus literally says they dont know who striked first. The Matrix doesnt mention anything about how or why the war started. Just that it started. The Animatrix tells you that the war started because the robot capital had basically destroyed the global economy so humans tried to wipe them out

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    • Quokka@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The war started because of hierarchy and hate. They abused and killed the earliest sentient robots causing them to flee to their own space.

      All along the robots sought peace until they learned it was impossible with humans.

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      • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah fuck those robots. I mean, I’m not anti-robot. One of my best friends is a robot. But fuck those robots.

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    • EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Humanity created everything that led to its destruction.

      The message was clear in the first movie. We didn’t need to see “Han shot first” or “Han shot in self defense after changes to the story came about years later”.

      Although in no way will I be complaining about more matrix, bring me more matrix history, animated or live action! I just think the message doesn’t change whether humans shot first or not. We created the circumstances, our downfall was our own making.

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      • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Hm, I think it does make the message stronger. If a single event (development of sentient machines) leads to our downfall, it’s easy to shrug it off as “bad luck”, because who could have foreseen it back then?

        But if we had multiple chances to correct course and we kept fucking up, it removes any doubt that it’s a human flaw, which means “humanity must reflect and change, or this is the inevitable conclusion”.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “we don’t know” is a pretty damning thing for the one side to say. contrast starship troopers.

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