Dictators by nature are not trustworthy, so which one do you pick: trustworthiness or dictatorship?
Comment on .ml has got to be the only place on earth where I'd get downvoted for a comment like this
njm1314@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You not posting this in context makes you super untrustworthy in my book.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 days ago
By “trustworthiness” do you mean continuing to try to vote our way into policy which benefits the American people? Because that hasn’t worked in 40+ years.
Yeah I’ll take a “dictatorship” like China if it means we get socialized Healthcare, 25,000 miles of high speed rail, affordable housing and nationalization of corporations who have received billions if not trillions in subsidies. American “democracy” certainly hasn’t delivered on any of that.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Then move to China, because the chances of a dictatorship running your way are next to zero. Dictatorship means no accountability, so once it’s set up, they do as they please no matter what you say.
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Then move to China
If I spoke mandarin fluently and had a solid support network of friends and family i would. 🤷♂️
Dictatorship means no accountability, so once it’s set up, they do as they please no matter what you say.
Show me all this accountability here in the United States. A known pedophile is in office and the previous guy in office spent four years in office giving a huge number of his voters the finger.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 day ago
I’m in China right now, its weird how the government does more for the people than most western democracies if they’re totally unaccountable. Is it possible you don’t have any idea wtf you’re talking about?
Here’s a place where you can go 250 miles in an hour and a half for 30 bucks. No idea who this is for if not the people.
zbyte64@awful.systems 1 day ago
You actually think there’s no accountability in China? My guy, they hold their politicians to a much higher bar then we do.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Xi is a de facto dictator. Sham elections and all
teft@piefed.social 1 day ago
Yeah I’ll take a “dictatorship” like China if it means we get socialized Healthcare, 25,000 miles of high speed rail, affordable housing and nationalization of corporations who have received billions if not trillions in subsidies. American “democracy” certainly hasn’t delivered on any of that.
Ask the Uyghurs how that’s working out for them. Anyone who thinks a fascist dictatorship doesn’t eat whoever they want is lying to themselves. If you’re not a party man (and even if you are that isn’t a bulletproof vest) you’re not going to have a life worth living.
I bet nazi germans were cool with living in the reich, too. Just look at all those jewish companies they were given! Who wouldn’t want that. /s
sveltecider@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
If you want to play this game, maybe you should google the highest prison population in the world and the racial nature of their for-profit prison labour system.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Ask the Uyghurs how that’s working out for them.
You’re going to have to come up with a counter benefit we don’t also have under U.S. democracy. Unless you think there is no comparison? I’d be happy to discuss that with you.
IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 1 day ago
Pretty sure there isn’t socialized healthcare.
Apropos affordable housing, how is the real estate bubble going? Don’t a lot of people pay for mortgages on apartments that have never been built?
sveltecider@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Because it is not literally flawless, we can’t be fans of it?
jwt@programming.dev 2 days ago
You think Linus Torvalds is untrustworthy?
deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
I could just as easily say “president is untrustworthy by nature” or “king”, “prime minister”, “dictator”, “state”, “soldier”, “police”, ”judge” etc. Dictatorship doesn’t automatically equal “authoritarian tankie evil communism everyone starves”
Dictatorship by definition means the person or party that dictates. A judge is not authoritarian for providing someone a fair trial regardless of how harsh or fair they are, but they are still dictating a system or an action. So when you hear “dictatorship of the proletariat”, it literally means you and everyone else controls the law. It doesn’t mean you get to decide everything it means that democracy actually involves every single person that participates instead of being “dictated” by money.
Every country expresses authority in some way, wether it’s USA something like Bay of Pigs, UK with their actions in India and Africa, USSR defeating Nazi armies and liberating concentration camps sometimes WITH the us and British. Technically Warsaw ghetto uprising was “authoritarian” and it was a good thing that they expressed authority on the Nazi regime.
Just trying to provide some clarity, a lot of people in the US truly have no idea how evil our government is and what they do overseas to help maintain your lifestyle, and it barely does a good job of maintaining our lifestyle. If anything socialist policies are always provably better at building society, and even the bare minimum in the US are people like Mamdani or Walz that prove even if you enact quasi-leftist policies like healthcare you’re an evil communist who likes dictatorship. You’re falling for it but you don’t have to, if you believe in people like AOC and other “progressive” dems like Ilhan Omar in theory you should be unlearning these things you’ve been taught by the right wing American media.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Dictatorship means there is no accountability. They do as they please no matter what you say. They have zero reason to be trustworthy.
nexguy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You are fighting against a tide of trolls or sheep. There is nothing you can do but block these people that try to rationalize away dictators.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
davel@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
It’s not hard to suss out the context: leminal.space/modlog?userId=17385373
lyrial@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
Fuck. What an unlikable piece of shit transphobe.
binarytobis@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That guy gets banned a lot.
HollowNaught@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m reading through these and oof lol. It’s hard to agree with the guy now, even given how bad tankies can be, considering their transphobic remarks