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• nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You seem to like when the government heavily censors domestic media, the internet, and academic discourse, and actively suppresses political dissent, protests, or criticism of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Movement within China is regulated. The justice system in China has a 99% conviction rate…for whichever side supports the side of the state. Mass surveillance with no legal recourse. You wouldn’t even know if you had it good or not. Unless you are fine not knowing I suppose.

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  • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The west also heavily censors domestic media, the internet, academic discourse, and actively suppresses political dissent and protests, etc. The critical difference is that the west does this to protect capitalists against the working classes, while China does this to suppress capitalists and protect the socialist system. The class that controls the state uses it to oppress the others.

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    • nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Can you openly criticize the Chinese party in control? Can you protest without violent retribution?

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      • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        People criticize, institutions are censored. Protests also do happen infrequently. China is a pretty stable country overall because the system actually works.

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  • Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And yet they have fewer people in prison than the US with four times the population. All these horrible things about china and yet they incarcerate people at a quarter of the rate that the US does.

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    • MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Also a fascist police state

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    • nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No one said the US is doing anything perfectly. What about the incarceration rate in the Netherlands? Individual freedom is difficult and comes at a cost. Chinese citizend simply do not have all the freedoms others in the west have. They are not allowed to demand it wether they want it or not.

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      • Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Idk about netherlands but you’re trying to single out china versus the west and the largest western country is far less free than china. If you say European, sure, quite frankly I have no clue about Netherlands incarceration, I’ll take your word for it. But if you want to talk about “the west” you have to answer for how your theory applies to the single largest western country.

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  • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You’re responding to my comment where I said.

    Show me all this accountability here in the United States.

    You didn’t show me where all this accountability is. Was that an oversight on your part or are you acknowledging there isn’t any?

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    • nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Can you openly criticize the Chinese party in control? Can you protest without violent retribution?

      You can do these things in the usa. Accountability.

      China won’t let the full intent through. The US does. Accountability.

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      • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You can do these things in the usa. Accountability.

        You think a few no kings protests around the country means the pedophile Donald Trump has been held accountable for his crimes against humanity?

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• betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If it was a total dictatorship, he’d be there forever. Accountability is the elections. You have hope.

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  • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Accountability is the elections.

    Then what are prisons for?

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    • betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Tell you what, I’ll wait here until you find a question you actually can’t answer yourself.

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      • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I was making an assumption you couldn’t see your own bullshit but this is you acknowledging you’re fully aware of it.

        Pathetic.

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  • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    A rotating cast of “elected” spokesmen for the ruling billionaires doesn’t result in accountability for anyone

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