Comment on First Satellites

CombatWombat@feddit.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• lime@feddit.nu ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  so, “pathfinder”?

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  • Limerance@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    More like companion.

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    • CombatWombat@feddit.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If the “pa” part of “companion” comes from path it’s basically exactly the same: “s” and “co” are both “with” and “nik” and “ion” are similar noun endings.

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      • balsoft@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If the “pa” part of “companion” comes from path

        It doesn’t though, it comes from French compagnon/compaignon and then Latin com (with) + panis (bread). It probably originally meant “someone with whom you share bread (eat together)”.

        And actually, looking at wiktionary, Old English had a word “ġefēra” (with the same meaning) which is constructed very similarly to “спутник”: ge (‘with’, still the same prefix in german e.g. ‎Gebrüder) + fera (‘to go’/‘to fare’, e.g. in seafaring)

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    • WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      More like baby mama

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        More like YO mama!

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  • CombatWombat@feddit.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I might translate it that way in some contexts, but if you told me Lewis and Clark were “sputniks” I’d assume you meant they got married in secret, rather than that they were explorers.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Especially now that I found out it involves a bacon cheese sausage somehow

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    • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s strange they called it a ‘companion’ of any sort since it was the sole first satellite in space

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      • RustySharp@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As in, a companion to the planet.

        Moons are satellites.

        Satellite: from Latin satellitem (nominative satelles) “an attendant” upon a distinguished person; “a body-guard, a courtier; an assistant”

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• GargleBlaster@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In (some parts of Germany) a Sputnik is a sausage with a slice of cheese in it, wrapped in bacon, pierced by a toothpick and baked in the oven.

  Was looking for a picture of one and found none. So now I’m contemplating if I’m going insane.

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  • CombatWombat@feddit.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The Russians call Germans “nemtsy” or “the mute ones” because allegedly the Germans were the first ethnic group the Russians encountered who didn’t speak their language and so they assumed they couldn’t speak at all. The sausage sounds delicious, though, so maybe they just weren’t speaking because they were eating cheese-stuffed bacon-wrapped sausages.

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    • AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To expand a bit, it comes from a Proto-Slavic word which was used for foreigners in general, but mostly to refer to Germans. It’s also why most (all?) Slavic languages have basically the same word for German(s)/Germany, similar-sounding to the modern Russian one.

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    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That anecdote doesn’t make any sense though. Like who are “the Russians” and why didn’t they have prior knowledge of other ethnic groups before? And “the Germans” is a very recent group of people that isn’t ethnic at all.

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      • CombatWombat@feddit.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        By “Germans” I mean “the early Germanic peoples who occupied the region that became Germany” and “Russians” I mean “the early Slavic peoples who occupied the region that became Russia”. I kinda just assumed folks would understand the modern federal German state didn’t exist when early Slavs first encountered other ethnic groups and could work backwards from there.

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is it a specific sausage or any sausage because no reason I’m not hungry

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• xzinik@feddit.cl ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  i find that incredibly fascinating and also so emotional like pure poetry in just one word, neat

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• SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fascinating, so it means 🇨🇿 spolucestovatel/spolupoutník or 🇩🇪 Mitreisender

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• balsoft@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m pretty sure the model of train is a proper name and it’s named after the satellite. I don’t think I would describe any train as a literal “sputnik” of the rails.

  Also Russian is full of composite words like that. “Explorer” in russian would be “исследователь” (issledovatel’) - ис (completely) + след (trace/footstep) + оват (make, imbue) + ель (he who). Literally it would be “he who makes (places) completely (covered in) footsteps”

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