Comment on How long until the rise of games with mods turns into user created games.

• ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The third-most populated game on Steam right now is Dota 2. Dota 1 is a mod. Counter-Strike was a Half-Life mod. PUBG came from the designer of a Battle Royale mod for Arma.

  source

  • prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is LoL still the most popular game in the world?

    Based off Dota

    source

    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Almost certainly not, but it’s probably not far down the list.

      source
  • Xanvial@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And Auto Chess genre came from a custom game in Dota 2

    source
  • who@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Counter-Strike was a Half-Life mod.

    And Half-Life was essentially a Quake mod. (More extensive than most mods, since the developers had the Quake source code, but a mod nevertheless.)

    source

    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, that’s too much of a stretch. Half-Life is it’s own game, they licensed and then modified Quake’s engine. That’d be like calling Satisfactory a mod of Fortnite.

      source

      • who@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Half-Life is it’s own game,

        Yes, as is Counter-Strike.

        modified Quake’s engine.

        Yes, mod is short for modification.

        The distinction you’re drawing seems pretty arbitrary to me. Early mods didn’t have the luxury of engine hooks and data separation designed for the purpose of third-party modding. They were more closely tied to the original game’s internals, and they were harder to make, but they were still mods. Even today, it’s not uncommon for mods to add features or change behavior in an engine via loaders or DLLs.

        I suppose it’s a matter of one’s perspective.

        source

        • -> View More Comments
    • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No it wasn’t, it used the same (albeit highly modified) engine, if that makes HL a mod then almost every game you play is a mod since they all use some preexisting engine. Otherwise you have to consider Marvel vs Capcom infinity a mod of Daylight since they’re both UE4 games, or even Call of Duty as a Quake mod.

      You don’t need Quake to run Half-life, therefore it’s not a mod, it just uses the same engine, or some parts of. That is very different from Counter-Strike which you needed to have Half-life and mod it to be able to play it originally.

      source
• LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Started as Warcraft 3 custom maps before Dota 1.

  source