Comment on How long until the rise of games with mods turns into user created games.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• UxyIVrljPeRl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Didnt the whole moba genre start as mod?

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The third-most populated game on Steam right now is Dota 2. Dota 1 is a mod. Counter-Strike was a Half-Life mod. PUBG came from the designer of a Battle Royale mod for Arma.

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    • prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is LoL still the most popular game in the world?

      Based off Dota

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      • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Almost certainly not, but it’s probably not far down the list.

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    • Xanvial@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And Auto Chess genre came from a custom game in Dota 2

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    • who@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Counter-Strike was a Half-Life mod.

      And Half-Life was essentially a Quake mod. (More extensive than most mods, since the developers had the Quake source code, but a mod nevertheless.)

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      • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No, that’s too much of a stretch. Half-Life is it’s own game, they licensed and then modified Quake’s engine. That’d be like calling Satisfactory a mod of Fortnite.

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      • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No it wasn’t, it used the same (albeit highly modified) engine, if that makes HL a mod then almost every game you play is a mod since they all use some preexisting engine. Otherwise you have to consider Marvel vs Capcom infinity a mod of Daylight since they’re both UE4 games, or even Call of Duty as a Quake mod.

        You don’t need Quake to run Half-life, therefore it’s not a mod, it just uses the same engine, or some parts of. That is very different from Counter-Strike which you needed to have Half-life and mod it to be able to play it originally.

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  • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Started as Warcraft 3 custom maps before Dota 1.

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• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I did in fact play games then. But back then, modded games weren’t anywhere near as common as they are now. And the games that were modded to make new great games were great to begin with.
  Now adays we seem to start from trash and use mods to make it playable. Soo, do we need the trash?

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Roblox gets mods and UGC because people wanted to be there to begin with. Mostly children, but still people. I don’t know how to make an apples to apples comparison about how prevalent modding was back then, because there are just way more games out today in general; but there were still tons of mods. Elder Scrolls and the mod community have always been intertwined, and once again, people like what’s there in the first place. Even with the reputation of Elder Scrolls being a game you install mods on, it’s only something like 10% of players that ever install them. I have never modded Elder Scrolls.

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    • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In fact Morrowind (arguably Bethesda’s best game) is still getting mods made for it over 24 years later. It’s biggest mod, Project Tamriel/Tamriel Rebuilt, is still getting made and worked on, and just had a major update last April.

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    • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wonder if there are metrics on % of players using mods across lots of games to see if there are patterns.

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