Comment on (serious) What would we be losing in a world where most people didn't own a car? Please read the OP before posting.

tomkatt@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s how it is out here too.

  Especially in the winter when we can easily have a foot of snow on the ground.

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  • tomkatt@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My property doesn’t even have paving, and trying to get the drive graveled was such a pain I just ended up slapping on all-terrain tires, both to deal with getting on and off the property slope in mud, and also because there’s country roads (dirt/sand) here and street tires stuck on that or when it snows.

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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Especially since public transit is usually locally funded (at least in the US), in areas like this the tax base doesn’t exist to be able to functionally fund public transit. We could need to completely rethink and re-organize how public transit is funded and rolled out for this to functionally work in remote areas.

  Or, you know, we could continue lettings cars be a thing for remote populations kind of like how in some far northern territories people use snowmobiles to get around part of the year because there’s simply too much snow to try to use another type of vehicle at all.

  I think the latter, having specific types of transportation still be a thing in places where they’re needed makes a lot more sense, honestly.

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  • tomkatt@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I kind of agree, but I’ll admit, I wouldn’t give up my car. I moved out here because I wanted out of city life and into more nature and quiet life. I only drive into town every 6 weeks for groceries and necessities in bulk and there’s no way I could haul all that on public transit. I want to be in the city as little as possible.

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, like I said, I honestly think public transit doesn’t make very much sense for remote areas. I think it makes far more sense to give people the types of transportation that work best for their use case, and in remote areas: that’s cars.

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• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sure and that’s absolutely awful, those remote areas deserve acess to fast and reliable public transportation as well. Specifically small towns should have commuter rail linking them to the nearest city, infrastructure that prioritizes walking and micro mobility, along with just better infrastructure.

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• DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I live in a city. I live 15 miles from where I work and I can drive it in about 20 minutes. If I wanted to take the bus, it’d take 3 hours and just as many changeovers because there’s no direct run. Not even close. I already work long hours so there’s no way in hell I’d spend 6 hours commuting, even if I could. For the record, I couldn’t even if I wanted since my office is nice enough to leave me with only an hour to get home, eat and get to bed before starting all over again. Sadly, it’s one of the failings of public transport even when it does exist.

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  • njordomir@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s like that here. I drove 15 minutes to school . My alternator died and I had to ride the bus for a week. It took over an hour, not counting the lovely walk across a 6 lane expressway and through a WalMart parking lot to reach the bus stop! I think we need a gradient. In rural areas, we have individual vehicles, cars, bikes, motorcycles, etc. In suburban areas, we offer coupled trains where cars link together into trains and drive in sync on a guideway until they break apart for last mile connectivity. In urban areas, we ban all cars, build out public transit, bike lanes, etc. Small electric cars could be permitted for special needs and for tradesmen who carry tools. This future can’t happen in the US because they would just forget about us stuck poor’s and we’d lose all mobility.

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• tonyn@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Get a horse

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  • tomkatt@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A horse would be even more expensive than a car, and would have way more emissions compared to my driving habits.

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    • tonyn@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Of course it’s a terrible suggestion. It was meant sarcastically. People used horses before cars were invented and it’s no surprise that once they were, cars became the dominant mode of transportation because they are far superior.

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      • tomkatt@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I suspected it wasn’t a serious suggestion, but couldn’t help thinking through the logistics anyway.

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