Comment on Current events dictate that I post this.
20cello@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
To those who’ve down voted this,why if I may ask? Genuinely curious
Russian bombs are bad not because of the flag, but because they consistently target civilians indiscriminately. Plus the whole invading a neighbor, murdering the people and stealing the land.
Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.
Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.
Genuinely not defending Russia here, but Dubya’s pretext for invading Iraq and Afghanistan was if anything even flimsier than the “justification” for the Ukraine invasion.
The estimates I’ve seen are 300.000 killed in Iraq. There’s more Russians killed alone than that, let alone Ukrainian military and civilian casualties…
Ok, some in Yemen and Somalia too, but Wikipedia claims the cost of life of the gwot was 4.5 million, and I’ve seen credible estimates as high as 6.
Just 15172 civilian killed in Ukraine, according to UN, though. About 40k injured. That’s the lower estimate, yes, but, in comparison, the USA has committed more than 100k confirmed civilians kills in just Iraq alone.
Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.
Any point you might’ve had about land acquisition, separatism, or imperialism, is pretty hard invalidated by this comparison. Like, why add Bush as a qualifier?
I didn’t, but I’m assuming they just haven’t heard anyone say that it’s good to be nuked by NATO.
i constantly hear people saying nato is justified on shit they do.
Photonic@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Because it’s short sided and ridiculous. Yes Russia bombs are bad, yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.
This is dumb “tankie” talk that tries to push people into corners that are comfortable for the OP so that they don’t have to use their brain and think about whether people’s world views may be more complex and (eep!) sometimes more well-thought of than their own simplistic view of “NATO bad - Communism good”.
And lastly, as many posts on here, it simply reeks of anti-western propaganda.
Peehole@piefed.social 19 hours ago
But this is literally how western media and leaders are portraying this. All bombs are bad, NATO or Russia or China or Iran or Israel I don’t care. And fuck Israeli bombs in particular where and why would bombs by a colonial entity committing genocide ever be necessary wtf?
Photonic@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
It’s just American, Israeli and other (extreme) right wing media. So no, it’s not “western media” either.
But no, bombs on an actual terrorist’s head are good bombs. A bomb on Hitler’s ass (like the attempted “Valkyrie” bombing) would have been a damn near perfect bomb.
And as for the Israeli bombs – and as I told the other guy – try to read what I actually said and not what you expect to read based on your prejudices.
Peehole@piefed.social 18 hours ago
That’s what you said and that’s why I responded to.
etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 9 hours ago
Western media is portraying Israeli bombs as good? Who? Fox doesn’t count.
Peehole@piefed.social 5 hours ago
Are you living under a rock? Seriously
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Lol Israeli and NATO bombs were necessary? Man, may God forgive you for your lack of humanity and overall ignorance.
Photonic@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Try to read the sentence again. Slowly.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
But I did and you’re just pushing Western imperialist propaganda, what’s going on here?
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 11 hours ago
Ah yes, because you are so smart and everyone who calls you out is stupid.
sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
Dirty zionist pig
Photonic@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Communism good, anything else: Zionist pig.
It must be bliss to live with such a simplistic world view. Or is papa Putin paying you?
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
{🐷| ? ? ? } the hell did I do?
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 17 hours ago
It’s a shitposting community. It’s irony.
With statements like this:
it seems that you are the deranged one.
Photonic@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
How so? And please finish the quote and not just the part that you need to make a disingenuous statement.
Strider@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Short-sighted.
Sorry.
Photonic@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
That’s a rather short comment and I don’t know what it means. And I also don’t know what you’re apologising for. Care to elaborate?