Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural"

• RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I would really like to see you try to get your dog pregnant.

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  • basxto@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why do you want to watch that?

    A human can try to impregnate a dog, they just can’t succeed

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨30⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Oh gods I forgot about the humsters. Someone bring me a rum bucket and a new liver please

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    • RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m the dog.

      I think I need to mute this thread before I dig this hole too deep.

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• theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s correct, yes.

  However, my dog is my property, and someone can only artificially inseminate my property with my permission.

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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Idk there’s two schools of thought on this. One is that you can own another creature with a mind. I find this attitude leads to a lot of very unsettling situations and possibly weird shit.

    The other is that you treat them like a child that is in your custody where you can order them what to do and where to go and what to eat but society expects you to follow certain rules while they’re in your custody.

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  • toomanypancakes@piefed.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What in the fuck

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    • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Anti-vegans will go to any depths of depravity in order to deal with their cognitive dissonance. Once, on Reddit, I got a commenter to agree that he would be fine if someone had a dog in a cage they tortured for entertainment, rather than agree that it’s kinda fucked up that we slaughter animals because their flesh tastes nice.

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      • Senal@programming.dev ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Real question, what if there is no cognitive dissonance.

        Like someone who knows exactly what’s going on and says “fuck it, it’s delicious” ?

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      • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So let me get this straight, you were arguing with someone, tried to lead them to a contradiction, but they actually had a consistent view on it that you didn’t like, and your conclusion is that they have cognitive dissonance?

        My friend, I do not think that means what you think it means.

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      • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “I lead someone who disagrees with me into saying something stupid once, therefore everyone who disagrees with me must have cognitive dissonance.”

        Lol

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So you’re aware, that’s a really fucked up thing to think. Let alone say.

    But maybe we disagree only on terminology?

    What would you call the act of nonconsensually sticking your dick into your dog, and do you think it’s horrible?

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    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What would you call the act of nonconsensually sticking your dick into your dog, and do you think it’s horrible?

      Raping a dog is bad, yes.

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      • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Raping a dog is bad, yes.

        So a dog is someone and that’s what makes it rape? Where do you draw the line for someone? Is it the act of rape itself that’s bad, or is it the perpetrator getting sexual satisfaction from it? What if they don’t do it for that purpose, but some other more abstract reason? Is it okay then?

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  • Senal@programming.dev ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ah the tried and tested “it’s ok if it’s my property” which historically(and currently) is a universal guideline for what is and isn’t ok.

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  • lalo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If I own a human slave, me artificially inseminating them without consent isn’t rape?

    If I DNA test the slave from earlier and discover they aren’t human, inseminating them without consent wouldn’t be rape?

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    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If I own a human slave

      …

      If I DNA test the slave from earlier and discover they aren’t human

      Uh… what are they, then?

      I don’t think these absurd hypotheticals are helping your argument.

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      • lalo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They are a nonhuman animal that has sentience, property of mine. Let’s call them hooman.

        You know hypotheticals are used to test consistency in someone’s logic and answering these will end up in you admitting absurdities. If I wasn’t interested in the truth, I would avoid answering them as well.

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