Comment on The cops pay Anon a visit

• trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Full disk encryption doesn’t help much if the pc is running anyway since the key will be in memory

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  • B0rax@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    How will they carry the running pc if it’s not a laptop?

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    • frog@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They have a battery attached to flat wires. When you give a couple millimeters of room from the plug, they insert the flat wires and the computer will be powered from the battery.

      If the computer is logged in, they have a USB device that mimics a mouse. It makes the mouse pointer move back and forth to prevent it from going to sleep or the screen saver.

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    • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They use forensic tools to clone the RAM before moving it. Probably depends on exploits so whether it will work may depend on your OS, but they have access to the hardware so there are a lot of possibilities.

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      • SirHaxalot@nord.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Is this actually practically achievable or mostly theoretical in a lab? Is it confirmed that the cops have actually managed to do this?

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      • B0rax@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        At least in Germany, I would be surprised if the cops could point to the RAM inside a computer. They will not open it before they take it with them.

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• SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This is where I think NFC may finally be useful. If cops show up, I slide my phone by a hidden NFC tag, and an http request is sent to my desktop machine. Everything incriminating is wiped and the computer is turned off, before the cops can walk to the room.

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  • a4ng3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Unless you have tied the NFC to an arc wielding torch how would proper data disposal process runs its course fast enough? You live in a manor with very long hallways?

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    • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Most of really nasty data is text or a few questionable apps, and should take very little time. Video and audio present a problem, but I think they can be speedily wiped by nuking the metadata parts, making recovery and identification difficult. Not sure how resilient modern formats are to data loss, but afaik e.g. AVI is quite reliant on the description of the stream (which iirc is inconveniently placed at the end of the file).

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      • a4ng3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Nha my dude you’re lying to yourself if you think that it is nearly enough to survive the level of forensics that will happen in case of a motivated investigation. You need the whole multipass erasure and overwriting or you’re toast. It takes hours…

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      • three@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The boys and I have a racist group chat and my hard drive is full of kiddie porn and audio recordings of women peeing in public restrooms.

        lmfao you’re going to need a more robust destruction plan

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  • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Better to have a “spare” pc under your desk, with the real one hidden.

    Cheaper and you won’t accidentally wipe your pc all the time.

    But what are you all having on up your PCs??

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    • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Where I am, having a networked machine cemented up in the wall is the national pastime, for when a bunch of masked policemen show up with automatic rifles. As for what’s on that machine, that’s another national sport because no one is paying for those bastards to harass businesses.

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  • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As with many other suggestions made here, if it can be demonstrated in court that you had a system like this set up, it’s going to be a really bad look for you.

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    • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You see, I’m one of those mysterious creatures who live in the lands outside the US. I know it’s gonna be a shock, but we do exist.

      As I already explained in the thread, where I am, the goal is to not give cops any material to work with, so they find someone else to harass. All the really serious data is hidden better than this.

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      • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        So do I, so lose the condescending attitude.

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• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If it can be proven you did that, that’s gonna look real bad in court.

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  • mech@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You can get in legal trouble for turning off your PC?

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    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There’s no law against googling how to dispose of a body, but if you do, and you’re a suspect in a murder, it’s a real bad look for you.

      Same story here. Probably legal, but definitely not a good look.

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      • msage@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Turning off your PC makes you look bad? What the fuck.

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  • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If it’s proven that you did it, you are getting locked up anyway.

    In 99% it is better to not say anything or indict yourself

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